Ok people stop sending me the same BS we've been reading about all year.
I know the NRA came out with an opinion and for the lack of enthusiasm on my part I'll post this from snopes.
Along with my latest reply to a person who wanted me to pass this on to WCSC's members.
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Nope I'll not pass this on~ this has been circulating all year in one form or another.
The first part is usually the story or rumor and the last part either backs it up or dismisses it. In this case, neither has any hope of passing.
#-1 A pending Senate bill would require that all handgun owners list their guns on their federal income tax returns. False!
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/taxreturns.asp
#-2 A bill before Congress would prohibit ownership of handguns by those who have not obtained firearm licenses. True! However no one supports it!
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/blairholt.asp
Regards
BlackPowderBill
Ontario,NY. 14519
Monday, October 26, 2009
Crossbows again, NY outdoor writers miss the mark!
This AM I opened another forwarded email that contained the latest article by Dick Nelson, which is featured here Bowhunters Take To The Trees
This is the second article I've seen from Dick since the NYB and NYSMLA sent out our joint proposal. In each article not once was the crossbow bill mentioned. To be fair Dick is not alone the biggest proponent of crossbows in NY never mentioned the bill in his latest article either. We all read about lots of action this past spring but it all revolved around the disabled being able to use a crossbow, which I feel is discriminatory. The crossbow should be legal for all NY'ers to use if they so desire.
So here is my comment left on Nelson's comment section.###
Dick, You and others can talk about crossbows in every article you write and you're not going to get anywhere by talking about what should be unless you let people know about the bills. Yea I know that is what the sportsmen’s groups are supposed to be doing. I’ve let people know about Bill A00923 which is discriminatory & contains more than the crossbow. So my question is what is the hold up on the NY outdoors writers end?
Not once, that I've seen in the last 8 weeks has any outdoor writer mentioned the ill written, discriminatory bill that has been rotting away in the NY house due to lack of support. This is the very same thing I use to talk about a President of the Wayne County Federation. All the talk was in meetings and 30 minutes out the door it was a new day till the following meeting.
Look fellow NY sportsmen, with all the emails you receive daily, you know what I’m talking about. All those useless jokes and political bull have any of you opened a letter of support for the crossbow bill. I mean a “genuine bonified” letter for support addressed to a NY Senator, Legislator or the DEC’s Commissioner? Better yet how about a “genuine bonified” press release published in one of the hundreds of newspapers published daily in NY?
I know I haven’t. So ah what gives NY?
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BILL NO A00923 SAME AS No same asSPONSOR DelMonteCOSPNSR GordonMLTSPNSR Crouch, Giglio Amd SS11-0307, 11-0901, 11-0903, 11-0905, 11-0701, 11-1103, 11-0931 & 11-1101,rpld & add S11-0901 sub 16, En Con L Makes provisions relating to migratory birds, game birds, turtles, longbows, crossbows and cable restraints; open season and bag limits for certain wild game.
Bill Brookover
President NYSMLA
Director SCOPE
Director/Past President http://www.nygunclub.org/
Past officer & President Wayne County Federation
& more
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New Proposal Favors Bowhunters Published: Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:16 PM EDT
This is the second article I've seen from Dick since the NYB and NYSMLA sent out our joint proposal. In each article not once was the crossbow bill mentioned. To be fair Dick is not alone the biggest proponent of crossbows in NY never mentioned the bill in his latest article either. We all read about lots of action this past spring but it all revolved around the disabled being able to use a crossbow, which I feel is discriminatory. The crossbow should be legal for all NY'ers to use if they so desire.
So here is my comment left on Nelson's comment section.###
Dick, You and others can talk about crossbows in every article you write and you're not going to get anywhere by talking about what should be unless you let people know about the bills. Yea I know that is what the sportsmen’s groups are supposed to be doing. I’ve let people know about Bill A00923 which is discriminatory & contains more than the crossbow. So my question is what is the hold up on the NY outdoors writers end?
Not once, that I've seen in the last 8 weeks has any outdoor writer mentioned the ill written, discriminatory bill that has been rotting away in the NY house due to lack of support. This is the very same thing I use to talk about a President of the Wayne County Federation. All the talk was in meetings and 30 minutes out the door it was a new day till the following meeting.
Look fellow NY sportsmen, with all the emails you receive daily, you know what I’m talking about. All those useless jokes and political bull have any of you opened a letter of support for the crossbow bill. I mean a “genuine bonified” letter for support addressed to a NY Senator, Legislator or the DEC’s Commissioner? Better yet how about a “genuine bonified” press release published in one of the hundreds of newspapers published daily in NY?
I know I haven’t. So ah what gives NY?
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BILL NO A00923 SAME AS No same asSPONSOR DelMonteCOSPNSR GordonMLTSPNSR Crouch, Giglio Amd SS11-0307, 11-0901, 11-0903, 11-0905, 11-0701, 11-1103, 11-0931 & 11-1101,rpld & add S11-0901 sub 16, En Con L Makes provisions relating to migratory birds, game birds, turtles, longbows, crossbows and cable restraints; open season and bag limits for certain wild game.
Bill Brookover
President NYSMLA
Director SCOPE
Director/Past President http://www.nygunclub.org/
Past officer & President Wayne County Federation
& more
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New Proposal Favors Bowhunters Published: Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:16 PM EDT
Sunday, October 25, 2009
Interview with Ken Mathison of SCOPE
Interview with Ken Mathison of SCOPE ( Shooters Committee on Political Education in New York State). Ken talks about infringement on rights, anti gun lobby, NY City control of the state, & state ... 3 parts on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u5Aa_udw9U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riycVRxuU9I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9LDnl-RhCw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u5Aa_udw9U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riycVRxuU9I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9LDnl-RhCw
Saturday, October 24, 2009
Fall of the Republic by Alex Jones
Here it is, Alex's latest video ~ watch it
Fall of the Republic by Alex jones
Fall of the Republic by Alex jones
Friday, October 16, 2009
ADK Safari club signs on NYB/NYSMLA proposal
On Thu, 10/15/09, George Franke wrote:
Subject: To: "Gary Socola NYB", blackpowderbill@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 11:30 PM
I am please to tell you both that I brought your proposals to our membership at tonights meeting and the membership of the Adirondack-Catskill Chapter of Safari Club International are happy to be behind you guys and support your deer season changes proposal. You're welcome to use my name and ACSCI in your lobbying efforts, as well, please let me know what further we can do at ACSCI to help get these season changes passed.
Sincerely,
George Franke Legislative Director, Adirondack-Catskill SCI
Endowment Life Member, National Rifle Assn.Life Member, BASS & NY Bowhunters, Inc.Supporting Member, NYS Outdoor Writers Assn.and a slew of other things...
Subject: To: "Gary Socola NYB", blackpowderbill@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 11:30 PM
I am please to tell you both that I brought your proposals to our membership at tonights meeting and the membership of the Adirondack-Catskill Chapter of Safari Club International are happy to be behind you guys and support your deer season changes proposal. You're welcome to use my name and ACSCI in your lobbying efforts, as well, please let me know what further we can do at ACSCI to help get these season changes passed.
Sincerely,
George Franke Legislative Director, Adirondack-Catskill SCI
Endowment Life Member, National Rifle Assn.Life Member, BASS & NY Bowhunters, Inc.Supporting Member, NYS Outdoor Writers Assn.and a slew of other things...
Tuesday, October 13, 2009
NYSMLA letter to the DEC
I want you all to notice the date at the end of this list & to all you NY outdoor writers can ya tell me why your readers are not seeing my Primitive definition? I have had several people call me and ask if it's only for flintlocks.
BPB
Jeremy,
Here we go with our compiled list. Many of us are multi-season hunters so we have many varied interest in the deer herd future.
- First and foremost would be an early southern zone muzzleloader season. We would welcome any opportunity in "normal" weather. This could be an early antlerless (use your DMP permit)only, or full blown use of your ML tag. Whether or not it is before an archery season or in between the archery and regular season, any new opportunity would be welcomed. Many have objected to the use of in-lines for an early season and we would not be against a "primitive" (sidelock) designation for the early season and any ML for a late season.
- Next would be legalization of crossbows. Legalize it and then worry about where it fits. There can be many places to utilize the Xbow. If not in the early season, allow it during the regular season in the archery only areas, allow it during the regular season in all areas where guns are legal, allow it in the ML season early or late, allow it in the late archery season. WE should not regulate for only the old or handicapped. As long as it is lethal and can take the animal with the same impact as the current archery equipment or gun, who cares? we need more hunters in the field. To limit crossbow use to older or handicapped people would be like restricting scopes on guns to people with eye problems. BPB comment~(naturally a good set of glasses will correct an eye problem, not a scope)
- Big topic is AR - we are firmly against AR's on public land. Private lands people can do what they want but with decreasing access it is a hardship on those that are not privileged to own land or belong to a big group that leases lands. This is statewide -
- Farmers need to give increased access to hunt their land. This will cut down on nuisance permits provided hunters can take more deer during hunting season. If you close your land to hunters - no nuisance permits!
The state can increase DMP's,but if you can not find land to hunt on it does no good.
-Suggestion has also been for an extra primitive week in January
If the take is not close to the projected numbers then extend that another 3 or 4 days till the numbers are obtained. Its the only way the state will be able to reduce the herd in high number areas.Fall hunting may be traditional, but to control the herd they will have to break tradition to do it.
- Since the DECALS implementation it is possible to take more bucks in a season. With the increased emphasis on growing older bucks, cut down on the buck harvest with a "ONE Buck" or "earn a buck system". Your one buck tag to use in your season of choice, the others must be antlerless where regulations allow. North and south can be separate regulations or the same.
- Allow consignment of regular license like the DMP's can be signed over now. It happens now all the time and if we are below harvest estimates wouldn't this help? This kinda of contradicts the "One Buck" approach but different people have different perspectives.
- Have a separate license for the "North"and "South" seasons. Many people who hunt the north and get "lucky" get locked out of the southern zone unless they have DMP. This would also be added revenue as it would not be "free".
Hope this provides you with some insight on the issues we have collected from our members.
As always, call or write if you have any questions or would like to discuss.
Thanks for the opportunity to input.....
Eric "Griz" Bratt
NYS Muzzleloaders Assoc
NYS Conservation Council - Big Game Committee
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In a message dated 8/18/2009 11:27:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jehurst@gw.dec.state.ny.us writes:
=====================================
So NY sportsmen where is your associations proposal?
BPB
BPB
Jeremy,
Here we go with our compiled list. Many of us are multi-season hunters so we have many varied interest in the deer herd future.
- First and foremost would be an early southern zone muzzleloader season. We would welcome any opportunity in "normal" weather. This could be an early antlerless (use your DMP permit)only, or full blown use of your ML tag. Whether or not it is before an archery season or in between the archery and regular season, any new opportunity would be welcomed. Many have objected to the use of in-lines for an early season and we would not be against a "primitive" (sidelock) designation for the early season and any ML for a late season.
- Next would be legalization of crossbows. Legalize it and then worry about where it fits. There can be many places to utilize the Xbow. If not in the early season, allow it during the regular season in the archery only areas, allow it during the regular season in all areas where guns are legal, allow it in the ML season early or late, allow it in the late archery season. WE should not regulate for only the old or handicapped. As long as it is lethal and can take the animal with the same impact as the current archery equipment or gun, who cares? we need more hunters in the field. To limit crossbow use to older or handicapped people would be like restricting scopes on guns to people with eye problems. BPB comment~(naturally a good set of glasses will correct an eye problem, not a scope)
- Big topic is AR - we are firmly against AR's on public land. Private lands people can do what they want but with decreasing access it is a hardship on those that are not privileged to own land or belong to a big group that leases lands. This is statewide -
- Farmers need to give increased access to hunt their land. This will cut down on nuisance permits provided hunters can take more deer during hunting season. If you close your land to hunters - no nuisance permits!
The state can increase DMP's,but if you can not find land to hunt on it does no good.
-Suggestion has also been for an extra primitive week in January
If the take is not close to the projected numbers then extend that another 3 or 4 days till the numbers are obtained. Its the only way the state will be able to reduce the herd in high number areas.Fall hunting may be traditional, but to control the herd they will have to break tradition to do it.
- Since the DECALS implementation it is possible to take more bucks in a season. With the increased emphasis on growing older bucks, cut down on the buck harvest with a "ONE Buck" or "earn a buck system". Your one buck tag to use in your season of choice, the others must be antlerless where regulations allow. North and south can be separate regulations or the same.
- Allow consignment of regular license like the DMP's can be signed over now. It happens now all the time and if we are below harvest estimates wouldn't this help? This kinda of contradicts the "One Buck" approach but different people have different perspectives.
- Have a separate license for the "North"and "South" seasons. Many people who hunt the north and get "lucky" get locked out of the southern zone unless they have DMP. This would also be added revenue as it would not be "free".
Hope this provides you with some insight on the issues we have collected from our members.
As always, call or write if you have any questions or would like to discuss.
Thanks for the opportunity to input.....
Eric "Griz" Bratt
NYS Muzzleloaders Assoc
NYS Conservation Council - Big Game Committee
-------------------------------------------------------
In a message dated 8/18/2009 11:27:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jehurst@gw.dec.state.ny.us writes:
=====================================
So NY sportsmen where is your associations proposal?
BPB
Thursday, October 8, 2009
Air guns for small game DEC regulation change
Part 180, Section 3 - Definition of Firearms
This proposed rulemaking is necessary to allow pellet rifles for some hunting.
Text of Proposed Regulation - Underlines contained in the text of the express terms denote new material. Brackets [ ] indicate material to be deleted.
Regulatory Impact Statement
How to Comment on Proposed Fish, Wildlife and Marine Resources Regulations
Comments will be accepted from September 16, 2009 through November 2, 2009.
Send comments to:Gordon R. BatchellerNYSDEC625 BroadwayAlbany, NY 12233-4754
or e-mail comments to: Proposed Rulemaking Part 180, Section 3 - Definition of Firearms
Part 180, Section 3 - Definition of Firearms - Express Terms
Express Terms
Section 180.3 of 6 NYCRR is amended as follows:
Section 180.3. Definition and use of firearms.
For the purposes of the Fish and Wildlife Law and this Title:
Subdivision (a) of 6 NYCRR section 180.3 is repealed and a new subdivision (a) of 6 NYCRR section 180.3 added:
(a) The terms "firearm" and "gun" shall mean:
(1) any rifle, pistol, revolver or shotgun which by force of gunpowder expels a missile or projectile capable of killing, wounding or otherwise inflicting physical damage upon fish, wildlife or other animals.
(2) any air-powered rifle or pistol with a rifled barrel, using ammunition no smaller than .17 caliber, and capable of producing projectile velocities of not less than 800 feet per second. For the purposes of the Fish and Wildlife Law, an air-powered rifle or pistol meeting the above specifications shall be considered a gun, and may be used to take protected wildlife whenever such protected wildlife may legally be taken with a rimfire rifle.
Contact for this Page:
NYSDEC
Fish, Wildlife & Marine Resources
625 Broadway
Albany, NY 12233-4754
518-402-8924email us
This proposed rulemaking is necessary to allow pellet rifles for some hunting.
Text of Proposed Regulation - Underlines contained in the text of the express terms denote new material. Brackets [ ] indicate material to be deleted.
Regulatory Impact Statement
How to Comment on Proposed Fish, Wildlife and Marine Resources Regulations
Comments will be accepted from September 16, 2009 through November 2, 2009.
Send comments to:Gordon R. BatchellerNYSDEC625 BroadwayAlbany, NY 12233-4754
or e-mail comments to: Proposed Rulemaking Part 180, Section 3 - Definition of Firearms
Part 180, Section 3 - Definition of Firearms - Express Terms
Express Terms
Section 180.3 of 6 NYCRR is amended as follows:
Section 180.3. Definition and use of firearms.
For the purposes of the Fish and Wildlife Law and this Title:
Subdivision (a) of 6 NYCRR section 180.3 is repealed and a new subdivision (a) of 6 NYCRR section 180.3 added:
(a) The terms "firearm" and "gun" shall mean:
(1) any rifle, pistol, revolver or shotgun which by force of gunpowder expels a missile or projectile capable of killing, wounding or otherwise inflicting physical damage upon fish, wildlife or other animals.
(2) any air-powered rifle or pistol with a rifled barrel, using ammunition no smaller than .17 caliber, and capable of producing projectile velocities of not less than 800 feet per second. For the purposes of the Fish and Wildlife Law, an air-powered rifle or pistol meeting the above specifications shall be considered a gun, and may be used to take protected wildlife whenever such protected wildlife may legally be taken with a rimfire rifle.
Contact for this Page:
NYSDEC
Fish, Wildlife & Marine Resources
625 Broadway
Albany, NY 12233-4754
518-402-8924email us
Second Amendment Radio Show
2nd Amendment Radio Show This show streams in weekly and features SCOPE's Ken Mathison
note: Blogging slow down,I've been very busy lately with the NYB & NYSMLA Joint deer season proposal.
A little heads up here folks, the crossbow in NOT yet a legal hunting implement. SO stop asking why it was not in our proposal.
BPB
note: Blogging slow down,I've been very busy lately with the NYB & NYSMLA Joint deer season proposal.
A little heads up here folks, the crossbow in NOT yet a legal hunting implement. SO stop asking why it was not in our proposal.
BPB
Moose River Primitive vous 18th annual
Here is a link to a few pictures of our event
Butch Lewis Photography~Moose River Vous
Starts tomorrow October 9, 2009
Butch Lewis Photography~Moose River Vous
Starts tomorrow October 9, 2009
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