Wednesday, March 26, 2014


8 East Main Street, Ilion, New York, 13357-1899; 315-894-3302;
SECRETARY: Donald Sage, P.O. Box 123, Paradox, NY 12858; 518-585-7250
NYSCC Legislative Meeting; Herkimer College; March 8, 2014
Meeting called to order by President Chuck Parker. After the Pledge to our Flag, He informed the members present that there will be a Board of Directors meeting at our spring meeting on April 26 per a request by some board members. He also explained some house-keeping rules and gave an update on his trips to Albany.
Legislative VP Bill Gibson explained the bills the council is tracking (about 280) and passed out binders containing copies of these. He also has been busy compiling and sorting these and other bills, and how he has been in touch with the legislators by e-mail and letters. He encouraged all of us to e-mail, call, and write our legislators requesting support of the council’s position. He also provided copies of the Firearm Legislation Bills (about 128) that he is watching. The Repeal SAFE Act bills are included in these. Copies can be acquired from the council office and they are also on-line at the NYSCC Website. You may also contact Bill directly with questions, etc.
The rest of the morning was spent reviewing and taking positions on the bills.
Break for lunch.
After lunch: Finished up the bills.
President Parker commented on committees and the need for everyone to renew their position every year. There is no automatic carry-over. The nominating committee consists of one person each from Regions 1, 2, 3; Regions 4, 5, 6; and Regions 7, 8, 9. Anyone wishing to run for an office needs to contact them for the elections in September.
President Parker requested the Big Game Committee to draft a resolution on the Bear Hunting, support for hunting over bait and hunting with dogs so the council can review it and take a position to send to DEC, etc. Likewise the Fish Committee on Lake George invasive species, milfoil, boat & trailer wash stations and how this could affect anglers across the state. The other committees as necessary will be asked to address items, positions, pertinent to their committee and draft resolutions accordingly. The committee members need to become more involved and active in the council, especially in the research of topics. President Parker would like all these resolutions reviewed and finalized for presentation to the membership at the annual September 19-21 meeting.
The council has only two resolutions for consideration this year, pending the committee meetings and their resolutions. Remember, resolutions from the counties were due in by February 1, 2014. Please plan on attending the Spring Meeting as we are looking to plan and better organize our committees and defining our committee’s tasks and mission. See attached info from President.
Food for Thought, a possible action for the Education committee and input to President. The DEC ops department is looking into taking over the “youths to camp program.” How will this affect the C.O.’s, archery/ hunter training, woodland skills, etc. of the program? Bring your thoughts and opinions to the spring meeting so they can be discussed for committee action items and or passed on to the President. Also, bring your copy of the suggested changes to the NYSCC Positions paper. This needs to be finalized for a vote at the September meeting. The Position changes are available on our website.
Legislative meeting adjourned 1430 hrs.
Don Sage, Secretary
Legislative Contact:
Bill Gibson; 585-737-3713;
NYSCC Spring Meeting; April 26th Not Just Another Meeting
Will you be there?
The NYSCC annual spring meeting normally covers our resolutions as a primary topic of discussion. Not so this year. Pending Committee activities we only have two resolutions to consider at this time. With this situation we now have the opportunity to cover, other just as important issues for the Council. I hope, that we as council members take this opportunity to address issues we have long identified as important, but have been unable to adequately address in the past. There are also some current issues that we need to look at. We need to look at our Committee structure and how we operate as well as some current issues so that the Council remains current, effective, and relevant to today’s issues.
When it comes to many issues I often say that we have to represent the consensus of the membership, which is a corner stone of our strength. With our Committee process we need to identify our committees functions and current items of concern It will be asked that every Committee identify their items of concerns today and possible concerns for tomorrow. It will also be important that all of us not directly associated with a specific committee know what the other committees see as their mission or concern. We want to strengthen our different committees knowledge and base so that we can better serve the membership and continue to move forward. So on April 26th it will be asked that all committees meet determine their mission and possible action for 2014 and give a brief report during our general session. Others in the general session will be able to comment and give suggestions.
The balance of the Spring meeting will be covered by presentations. The topic of these presentations will cover on access and collaborations. I hope we all look at how the different issues are being addressed (the process which goes beyond the topic being discussed) as well as the topic itself. Walt Paul the NYSCC Access Specialist will give a short presentation on the access issues we have been dealing with over the past year. Eric Carlson of the Empire Forest Products Associations will give a presentation on common issues and legislation that they share with us. Sean Mahar, NYS Audubon has been asked to talk on common habitat concerns that we share. You find little in common with your local Audubon Chapter? That is an issue that can be discussed and possibly worked upon. The State Chapter is not the same as your local Chapter of Audubon. Find out the differences. Representatives from CFAB and the State FWMB will also be invited to attend. One comment I would like to make that we are seeing with better working relationships that there is the opportunity to sit at more tables to express the Council Membership’s concern. We don’t always agree 100% of the time with the other but we are there and where we do agree we have these groups support.
All this will be done and we plan to close the Spring Meeting by 3:00pm. We need your organizations attendance to help the Councils to continue to be a cohesive group where the membership helps promote directions and we all have a better understanding of what we the Council are trying

Thursday, March 20, 2014

New Yorkisstan ~Genesee County exits SAFE Act pilot program

Genesee County exits SAFE Act pilot program
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 07:02:31 -0400

Pilot Program for Pistol Permit Recertification
This is to update you on the status of the SAFE Act as it relates to the development of a database and procedures for the recertification of pistol permits. The Governor's Commission relating to the above had been meeting with conference calls bi-weekly last spring and summer. Last fall the meetings would occasionally be cancelled stating that they had nothing new to report. I believe the last connection we had prior to 2/12/2014 was in early December. In order to begin the recertification process, the State selected 7 pilot counties with different levels of established databases and size of county. Genesee County was selected as a county which chose to retain their own established database and connect with the State database through a yet-to-be-established interface. We provided them with a detailed, step-by-step outline of the permit process in Genesee County from start to finish. We were told that we would be contacted by the State IT Dept. to implement access from County to State and from State to County. That step was to take place in the early fall. To date the approval of our process, complete with a State generated flow cart, was the last we heard of the database development. Biweekly meetings of the Commission were scheduled for 2014. The pilot counties were to begin with 500 randomly selected permit holders contacted by letter on February 14th.
After cancelling the January meetings of the Commission, on February 12th we held a conference call with the Governor's Commission on Implementation of the SAFE Act. We were informed on that date that the roll-out that was to begin 2 days later would be delayed. Initially they indicated that it might be June or July; however, by the end of our conference call they were stating that it would probably be the fourth quarter of this year. Earlier this week I received 23 emails from the Program Director of the Governor's Commission. Each one of the emails cancelled one of this year's meetings including the final meeting of the year on December 31st. As a result of the delays and the total uncertainty of the plans for implementation, attached you will find a letter that I have transmitted to the Governor's Commission withdrawing Genesee County's participation in the Pilot Program. I feel that the inability to establish a timetable and definite steps for the program will make it impossible to plan our office staffing patterns and other internal programs that we wish to accomplish this year. I also feel that it is unfair to the residents of our county to be kept in the dark on exactly when and what will take place in the alleged SAFE Act. If you have any questions on the status of the various components of the SAFE Act, feel free to contact me. I will do my best to keep you aware of developments and any projected implementation dates as they occur.
~ Don

Don M. Read, Genesee County Clerk
Best regards,

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Tuesday, March 18, 2014

Shooters Committe on Political Education NY Billboards

Check out SCOPE's billboard campaine against the firearms ban.

All New York Grass Roots 2nd amendment group since 1965!!

Shooters Committee on Political Education

We are made up of concerned gun owners and conservation clubs accross New York.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
U.S. Constitution, Amendment II

SCOPE Mission Statement

The Shooter’s Committee on Political Education was founded in 1965 by a group of firearms owners in western New York. SCOPE is a civil rights organization focused on the protection and preservation of the right of firearms ownership as guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. The founding of SCOPE and its subsequent growth were in response to the attacks on the Second Amendment as being outmoded in modern times or not being applicable to the rights of individuals. In other words, firearms ownership, much less use, was no longer considered by some to be politically correct.
While SCOPE role is focused primarily on the political process, it is an issues oriented organization. It does not align itself with any political party nor does it endorse any candidates for elective office. Our function is to counter assaults on the right of firearms ownership. This entails providing legislators and executives with timely and accurate information to support sound decisions.
In a free society, it is inevitable that the needs of the public will come into conflict with the rights of the individual. The SCOPE legislative team reviews all proposed firearms legislation for its impact on the legitimate firearms owner, its economic cost to the state, and its potential for achieving its stated objective. In developing our position on a specific piece of legislation or regulatory proposal, SCOPE goes through an extensive review process. All proposals are examined in light of their relationship to legitimate state interests and their potential for achieving objectives substantially related to satisfying those interests.
SCOPE’s purpose is to maintain the right of individuals to own and use firearms for lawful purposes. The Supreme Court in its landmark 2008 decision in District of Columbia v. Heller clearly upheld this right. We do recognize that we live in a real world where individual rights may conflict and the state has a legitimate interest in resolving those conflicts. Any regulation by the state, however, must serve an important governmental objective and must be closely related to the achievement of that objective. SCOPE will oppose, with all its resources, any proposal that is not based on sound technical grounds or that infringes on the rights of firearms owners for the purpose of promoting a political philosophy, advancing a social theory, or as an emotional response and is not based on clear Constitutional grounds.
SCOPE’s mission has always been to keep legislators informed and educated on pending and proposed bills affecting gun owners and sportsmen. We have been successful for 40 plus years. And for 40 years SCOPE has been educating the voting public on the importance of their involvement and vote. In 2013 the efforts and successes of 40 years of advocacy for gun owners all changed in the dead of night with a midnight vote. SCOPE will not stop and is now expanding to litigation efforts as well as education of our legislators and voters.<

Wednesday, March 12, 2014

WW2 Era NRA American Rifleman magazine cover photos.

I use to collect theses magazines having had at  one time from 1938 up to 2000. I just sold off 6 years and here were a few of the covers. I have more but not 1940 to 1945.

I gonna miss these they had a boat load of information and great pictures!
Regards, BPB