Some Success with The SCOPE Albany Trip
· Senator Nozzolio to submit a bill to cancel CoBIS program in face of NYS budget deficit.
· Assemblyman Steve Hawley called me to today to say he would follow through on my request that he submit companion legislation in the assembly to support this effort.
· Keith Kapple (Yates co.) currently working on his assemblyperson(s) as well.
· Most common response when I asked Albany legislators to read our letter: "Oh, I've seen this!"
·I know this is a small achievement considering the onslaught of anti-2A bills we currently face, and the bill has not yet reached the floor for a vote, but this would be a nice feather in SCOPE's cap.
Senator Nozzolio did not mention that any other 2A group was involved on this issue (does not mean that we acted alone, but perhaps so).
Thanks to Keith Keppel for the original letter and campaign and B.P.Bill for getting it published,I enjoyed working with you on this. Maybe we did some good.
We will continue the letter writing campaign to increase pressure Albany.
Christopher Lane
Friday, January 30, 2009
Tuesday, January 27, 2009
SCOPEny.org Orleans County reports
Orleans County report (by Paul Rusin):
Tinker wanted all to know that we, once again, did our food drive
for the poor, and elderly, the weekend before Christmas. Most are very
appreciative. We sent out approximately 25 boxes of food.
Tink says thanks go out to all who helped: Paul Rusin, Bob Rowe (Vice Chair),Ann Clark (Treasurer), Mary Ellen Hamill (Secretary), her significant
other Dick Swan, Dick Bruning, and Roy Lane for helping put the boxes
together and deliver them.
GREAT work folks~ BPB
Tinker wanted all to know that we, once again, did our food drive
for the poor, and elderly, the weekend before Christmas. Most are very
appreciative. We sent out approximately 25 boxes of food.
Tink says thanks go out to all who helped: Paul Rusin, Bob Rowe (Vice Chair),Ann Clark (Treasurer), Mary Ellen Hamill (Secretary), her significant
other Dick Swan, Dick Bruning, and Roy Lane for helping put the boxes
together and deliver them.
GREAT work folks~ BPB
Tuesday, January 20, 2009
Antis running NY DEC? BPB was right !
This is going to be a looong read. So get your coffee and toss another log in the fire.
==========================
Read this 1st~
http://www.thedailymail.org/articles/2009/01/17/sports/sports1.txt Sportsmen have something to cackle about
By Dick Nelson Hudson-Catskill Newspapers
There’s been a lot of back slapping and high-fives going around the Internet since Gov. David Paterson sent out a directive to halt the closure of the Reynolds Game Farm in Ithaca (Tompkins County). Andrightly so. I can’t remember another issue that galvanized sportsmenas much as Paterson’s decision to close the farm and discontinue the pheasant program.Sportsmen have been up in arms since the directive to close the farmwas issued in mid-December, but the fact of the matter is, Paterson would have never reversed his decision if he and state Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) Commission Alexander “Pete” Grannis hadn’t been served with a temporary restraining order (TRO).Initiated by the Conservation Alliance of New York (CANY), and the NewYork State Rifle and Pistol Association (NYSRPA), the TRO, signed byAlbany County Supreme Court Judge Eugene Devine on Friday, placed aninjunction on the closing of Reynolds Game Farm, as well as the removalor destruction of the birds from the facility.That was the same day Paterson, or should I say Judith Enck - hisDeputy Secretary for the Environment, and the woman who instigated theclosing - had a change of heart.Coincidence? I think not.
Right up until Tuesday Enck and company had been firm in their decision to close the farm, telling New York State Conservation Council president Harold Palmer that the pheasants will be disposed of and there will be no talks about the purchase of birds, either day-old chicks or adults,to be released.At the time, the 8,000 or so remaining breeder birds had been scheduled to be processed and distributed to food banks in Central New York.Oddly enough, Enck’s husband, Mark Dunlea, is the Executive Directorof the Hunger Action Network of New York State - a statewide anti-hunger coalition. He is also a co-founder of New York Public Interest ResearchGroup, an environmental organization that has close ties to the HumaneSociety of the United States (HSUS) and where Enck worked as a Senior Environmental Associate before going to work for Eliot Spitzer as his environmental policy advisor when the disgraced governor was the stateAttorney General.Another coincidence? You be the judge. I just hope that her $159,984salary isn’t paid out of the Conservation Fund.And this just may be just another coincidence, but I found it extremely strange that the letter HSUS sent to Commissioner Grannis congratulating him on the closing of the pheasant farm was dated and received prior tothe official announcement.
It’s been obvious since the Democrats took over the governorship that Enck is running the DEC, and Grannis - as much as he would like to thinkotherwise - is only a figurehead. That is a shame, because despite allof the controversy surrounding his appointment, he’s gained somerespect. However, the only way sportsmen can ever be certain that the fish and wildlife programs that have been with us since the days of the old Conservation Department will be there for future generations is to rallyfor a separate Department of Natural Resources.
Then, if there is a need for special stamps to support our programs, wewill at least know it is justified. Right now we don’t know how ourmoney is being spent, and trying to get the information from either the DEC or the Division of Budget is like trying to catch fish without bait.In fact you’d probably have a better chance of getting Judy Enck to go pheasant hunting. The numbers they provide the Conservation Fund Advisory Board are neverup to date, which doesn’t give this watch dog group much to go on.
Just about every other state in the country has a Department of NaturalResources or a Natural Resource Commission, and while many of them arestruggling financially, they, unlike New York, don’t haveenvironmentalists making decisions that affect their programs.
In Friday’s announcement the governor requested that DEC develop afee structure that will generate new revenues to the Conservation Fund -one that would fully offset the operational and capital costs of thefacility.
This may or may not have been pre determined, inasmuch as the NYSCCboard of directors has suggested a $20 pheasant stamp, which makes mewonder if this whole pheasant fiasco wasn’t a ruse to get additional money from us, and the NYSCC board of directors fell for it hook, line and pheasant tail.
BPB comment on the last paragraph~ Or maybe some of those strutting around today as big heros should have listened to me in the 90's & in 2004 about the antis & the DEC. Nah that's right they were not intrested in animal rights. LMAO
Then again Grannis did tells us the farm was gone in September and no one picked up on it~
So when ya'll gonna get on the wagon with the other cuts and increases?
==========================
The most interesting thing about this for me is the fact that the attorney that filed this action, Robert Firriolo, is the same attorney the NRA has no faith in regarding the Nassau Co. Gun Ban legal action. Seems to me that someone at the NRA speaks with forked tongue!
Ken
==========================
LMAO it gets deeper yet!
Oddly enough, Enck's husband, Mark Dunlea, is the Executive Director
of the Hunger Action Network of New York State - a statewide anti-
hunger coalition. He is also a co-founder of New York Public Interest Research Group, an environmental organization that has close ties to the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) and where Enck worked as a Senior Environmental Associate before going to work for Eliot Spitzer as his environmental policy advisor when the disgraced governor was the state Attorney General.
My comments~
LMAO ~ NYPRIG was Obie’s 1st job ~ Senator Obama’s Role as a NYPIRG Project Coordinator. As mentioned in his autobiography, Dreams for My Father, Senator Obama was hired in his first job as an organizer as a “Project Coordinator” in February 1985 to run NYPIRG’s office at the City College of New York. Till his classes finished 3 months later.
As far as Mark Dunlea’s connection to the food bank he has been feeding the hungry for many years. * Helping others is an honorable thing to do. Naturally a nice paycheck makes you feel better as well.
However, his wife should have known better than to just donate state property as is implied in the article and in Internet chatter.
Oddly enough this brings a serious question I have to ask a friend.
He also may want to know that the direction the antis have taken are similar to another topic we discussed last week.
I’ve found the HSUS & animal ties at this link and once you look at the 1st page I dare anyone to tell me they were on top of NY politics, especially those who stuffed it in my face a few years ago as being the heartbeat of the pulse in NY’s sportsmen’s causes.
The single mindedness, a few of us tired to expose were shot down by arrogant self-centered people. If they arrogants would have spent their time looking at who was who in NY we might have had a heads up as to who these people were and their cross ties.
I tried in vain to do as much cross-reference & research as possible but never found this connection till this news article. If I would have had my question, (which was what is Enck’s husband’s name); answered when it was 1st mentioned that Enck’s husband was to obtain the pheasants I would have published the ties I found tonight weeks ago.
Damm I may be out in space with my thoughts here but “DANG” anyone care to tell me different? Doesn’t it look it like a gathering of every “text book” example of environmental loonies to you guys?
Yea we save a game farm all right and what else is in store for us anyone care to answer?
Here is the link to http://wetlands-preserve.org/?page=links
Some of the side bar links are here
Visit these Wetlands Activism Collective Websites:
Foodnotfur.org
FurFreeNYC.org
Freegan.info
FreeTradeKillsAnimals.org
StopPeruFTA.org
1. Activism Center at Wetlands-Preserve
Humane Society of the United States http://www.hsus.org/ace/352 .... New York Public Interest Interest Research Group http://www.nypirg.org/ ...
wetlands-preserve.org/?page=links - 54k - Cached - Similar pages -
###
Until my spaceship lands in friendlier territory Over & Out
BPB
==========================
Read this 1st~
http://www.thedailymail.org/articles/2009/01/17/sports/sports1.txt Sportsmen have something to cackle about
By Dick Nelson Hudson-Catskill Newspapers
There’s been a lot of back slapping and high-fives going around the Internet since Gov. David Paterson sent out a directive to halt the closure of the Reynolds Game Farm in Ithaca (Tompkins County). Andrightly so. I can’t remember another issue that galvanized sportsmenas much as Paterson’s decision to close the farm and discontinue the pheasant program.Sportsmen have been up in arms since the directive to close the farmwas issued in mid-December, but the fact of the matter is, Paterson would have never reversed his decision if he and state Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) Commission Alexander “Pete” Grannis hadn’t been served with a temporary restraining order (TRO).Initiated by the Conservation Alliance of New York (CANY), and the NewYork State Rifle and Pistol Association (NYSRPA), the TRO, signed byAlbany County Supreme Court Judge Eugene Devine on Friday, placed aninjunction on the closing of Reynolds Game Farm, as well as the removalor destruction of the birds from the facility.That was the same day Paterson, or should I say Judith Enck - hisDeputy Secretary for the Environment, and the woman who instigated theclosing - had a change of heart.Coincidence? I think not.
Right up until Tuesday Enck and company had been firm in their decision to close the farm, telling New York State Conservation Council president Harold Palmer that the pheasants will be disposed of and there will be no talks about the purchase of birds, either day-old chicks or adults,to be released.At the time, the 8,000 or so remaining breeder birds had been scheduled to be processed and distributed to food banks in Central New York.Oddly enough, Enck’s husband, Mark Dunlea, is the Executive Directorof the Hunger Action Network of New York State - a statewide anti-hunger coalition. He is also a co-founder of New York Public Interest ResearchGroup, an environmental organization that has close ties to the HumaneSociety of the United States (HSUS) and where Enck worked as a Senior Environmental Associate before going to work for Eliot Spitzer as his environmental policy advisor when the disgraced governor was the stateAttorney General.Another coincidence? You be the judge. I just hope that her $159,984salary isn’t paid out of the Conservation Fund.And this just may be just another coincidence, but I found it extremely strange that the letter HSUS sent to Commissioner Grannis congratulating him on the closing of the pheasant farm was dated and received prior tothe official announcement.
It’s been obvious since the Democrats took over the governorship that Enck is running the DEC, and Grannis - as much as he would like to thinkotherwise - is only a figurehead. That is a shame, because despite allof the controversy surrounding his appointment, he’s gained somerespect. However, the only way sportsmen can ever be certain that the fish and wildlife programs that have been with us since the days of the old Conservation Department will be there for future generations is to rallyfor a separate Department of Natural Resources.
Then, if there is a need for special stamps to support our programs, wewill at least know it is justified. Right now we don’t know how ourmoney is being spent, and trying to get the information from either the DEC or the Division of Budget is like trying to catch fish without bait.In fact you’d probably have a better chance of getting Judy Enck to go pheasant hunting. The numbers they provide the Conservation Fund Advisory Board are neverup to date, which doesn’t give this watch dog group much to go on.
Just about every other state in the country has a Department of NaturalResources or a Natural Resource Commission, and while many of them arestruggling financially, they, unlike New York, don’t haveenvironmentalists making decisions that affect their programs.
In Friday’s announcement the governor requested that DEC develop afee structure that will generate new revenues to the Conservation Fund -one that would fully offset the operational and capital costs of thefacility.
This may or may not have been pre determined, inasmuch as the NYSCCboard of directors has suggested a $20 pheasant stamp, which makes mewonder if this whole pheasant fiasco wasn’t a ruse to get additional money from us, and the NYSCC board of directors fell for it hook, line and pheasant tail.
BPB comment on the last paragraph~ Or maybe some of those strutting around today as big heros should have listened to me in the 90's & in 2004 about the antis & the DEC. Nah that's right they were not intrested in animal rights. LMAO
Then again Grannis did tells us the farm was gone in September and no one picked up on it~
So when ya'll gonna get on the wagon with the other cuts and increases?
==========================
The most interesting thing about this for me is the fact that the attorney that filed this action, Robert Firriolo, is the same attorney the NRA has no faith in regarding the Nassau Co. Gun Ban legal action. Seems to me that someone at the NRA speaks with forked tongue!
Ken
==========================
LMAO it gets deeper yet!
Oddly enough, Enck's husband, Mark Dunlea, is the Executive Director
of the Hunger Action Network of New York State - a statewide anti-
hunger coalition. He is also a co-founder of New York Public Interest Research Group, an environmental organization that has close ties to the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) and where Enck worked as a Senior Environmental Associate before going to work for Eliot Spitzer as his environmental policy advisor when the disgraced governor was the state Attorney General.
My comments~
LMAO ~ NYPRIG was Obie’s 1st job ~ Senator Obama’s Role as a NYPIRG Project Coordinator. As mentioned in his autobiography, Dreams for My Father, Senator Obama was hired in his first job as an organizer as a “Project Coordinator” in February 1985 to run NYPIRG’s office at the City College of New York. Till his classes finished 3 months later.
As far as Mark Dunlea’s connection to the food bank he has been feeding the hungry for many years. * Helping others is an honorable thing to do. Naturally a nice paycheck makes you feel better as well.
However, his wife should have known better than to just donate state property as is implied in the article and in Internet chatter.
Oddly enough this brings a serious question I have to ask a friend.
He also may want to know that the direction the antis have taken are similar to another topic we discussed last week.
I’ve found the HSUS & animal ties at this link and once you look at the 1st page I dare anyone to tell me they were on top of NY politics, especially those who stuffed it in my face a few years ago as being the heartbeat of the pulse in NY’s sportsmen’s causes.
The single mindedness, a few of us tired to expose were shot down by arrogant self-centered people. If they arrogants would have spent their time looking at who was who in NY we might have had a heads up as to who these people were and their cross ties.
I tried in vain to do as much cross-reference & research as possible but never found this connection till this news article. If I would have had my question, (which was what is Enck’s husband’s name); answered when it was 1st mentioned that Enck’s husband was to obtain the pheasants I would have published the ties I found tonight weeks ago.
Damm I may be out in space with my thoughts here but “DANG” anyone care to tell me different? Doesn’t it look it like a gathering of every “text book” example of environmental loonies to you guys?
Yea we save a game farm all right and what else is in store for us anyone care to answer?
Here is the link to http://wetlands-preserve.org/?page=links
Some of the side bar links are here
Visit these Wetlands Activism Collective Websites:
Foodnotfur.org
FurFreeNYC.org
Freegan.info
FreeTradeKillsAnimals.org
StopPeruFTA.org
1. Activism Center at Wetlands-Preserve
Humane Society of the United States http://www.hsus.org/ace/352 .... New York Public Interest Interest Research Group http://www.nypirg.org/ ...
wetlands-preserve.org/?page=links - 54k - Cached - Similar pages -
###
Until my spaceship lands in friendlier territory Over & Out
BPB
Sunday, January 18, 2009
HSUS in court over AR Videos
If animal fighting and animal cruelty so called "crush" videos, magazines and the like can not be sold. Then how does PeTA & the HSUS get away with making and distrubuting their propoganda that feature the very thing they fought to outlaw?
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00000048----000-.html
Good question Bill & one I've asked in the past. Well it looks like I wasn't the only person asking. It seems that very question is sitting in the courts. According to a story appearing in the New York Times this week, the U.S. Supreme Court may soon hear an unusual First Amendment case that could put some high-profile animal rights groups out of business. And they don't even seem to see it coming.
The case surrounds a 1999 federal law that criminalized the creation, sale, or possession of videos and photos depicting animal cruelty for commercial gain. The law has since been struck down, but now the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) is rallying support to restore it because it made distributing dogfighting videos and (truly bizarre) animal "crush" videos illegal. We have just one question: Is fundraising to foot the bill for six-figure activist salaries considered "commercial gain"?
The article continues on
HSUS and its lesser sibling, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), routinely use videos of animal cruelty to disgust donors into opening their wallets.
Every year, the two animal rights organizations use the shock value of undercover slaughterhouse footage and seal-hunting videos (to name just a few categories) in order to raise their $165 million in combined budgets. That's where the six-figure salaries come in -- HSUS president Wayne Pacelle, for instance, makes $234,000 in salary and benefits.
Fair is fair.
If the Supreme Court wants to ban the distribution of some profitable depictions of animal cruelty, it's also appropriate for HSUS and PETA to cease their own macabre fundraising blitzes. Should the contested law be resurrected, much of what the groups peddle on their websites could be illegal.
Consider, on the one hand, a dogfighting film or a sexually prurient video of furry animals being crushed to death. On the other, footage showing an uncommon slaughterhouse worker illegally abusing livestock animals. These activities are all illegal.
The law can't -- and shouldn't -- allow anyone to claim that one is objectionable while another is "motivating" or "eye-opening."
Animal rights leaders should be careful what they wish for. If HSUS and PETA truly want these images kept out of the public eye, they should start by cleaning up their own offensive propaganda films first.
"What's good for the goose," the saying goes.
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00000048----000-.html
Good question Bill & one I've asked in the past. Well it looks like I wasn't the only person asking. It seems that very question is sitting in the courts. According to a story appearing in the New York Times this week, the U.S. Supreme Court may soon hear an unusual First Amendment case that could put some high-profile animal rights groups out of business. And they don't even seem to see it coming.
The case surrounds a 1999 federal law that criminalized the creation, sale, or possession of videos and photos depicting animal cruelty for commercial gain. The law has since been struck down, but now the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) is rallying support to restore it because it made distributing dogfighting videos and (truly bizarre) animal "crush" videos illegal. We have just one question: Is fundraising to foot the bill for six-figure activist salaries considered "commercial gain"?
The article continues on
HSUS and its lesser sibling, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), routinely use videos of animal cruelty to disgust donors into opening their wallets.
Every year, the two animal rights organizations use the shock value of undercover slaughterhouse footage and seal-hunting videos (to name just a few categories) in order to raise their $165 million in combined budgets. That's where the six-figure salaries come in -- HSUS president Wayne Pacelle, for instance, makes $234,000 in salary and benefits.
Fair is fair.
If the Supreme Court wants to ban the distribution of some profitable depictions of animal cruelty, it's also appropriate for HSUS and PETA to cease their own macabre fundraising blitzes. Should the contested law be resurrected, much of what the groups peddle on their websites could be illegal.
Consider, on the one hand, a dogfighting film or a sexually prurient video of furry animals being crushed to death. On the other, footage showing an uncommon slaughterhouse worker illegally abusing livestock animals. These activities are all illegal.
The law can't -- and shouldn't -- allow anyone to claim that one is objectionable while another is "motivating" or "eye-opening."
Animal rights leaders should be careful what they wish for. If HSUS and PETA truly want these images kept out of the public eye, they should start by cleaning up their own offensive propaganda films first.
"What's good for the goose," the saying goes.
Saturday, January 17, 2009
SCOPEny.org Legislative report
The SCOPE Legislative Report has been updated and is available at
http://scopeny. org/ARCHIVES/ SCOPE_Legislativ e_Report. pdf
New information is in red and bills that will most likely advance are highlighted in yellow.
Ken Mathison, President
SCOPE, Inc.
FYI: This report is updated weekly or more as needed. The link stays the same so check it often.
bpb
http://scopeny. org/ARCHIVES/ SCOPE_Legislativ e_Report. pdf
New information is in red and bills that will most likely advance are highlighted in yellow.
Ken Mathison, President
SCOPE, Inc.
FYI: This report is updated weekly or more as needed. The link stays the same so check it often.
bpb
Friday, January 16, 2009
Primitive Biathlon Article in ADK Outdoors
NYSMLA.org Primitive Biathlon article in ADK outdoors
Very nice article!
http://adksports.com/currentIssueFB3.html
bpb
Very nice article!
http://adksports.com/currentIssueFB3.html
bpb
Pheasent farm will not close!
Pheasant farm will not be closed
Hello Concerned Conservationists.
This morning I received a call from Commissioner Grannis. He said the Governor got my message and the pheasant farm will not be closed and the birds will remain. Commissioner Grannis asked that I work with the department on funding for all programs.At this time hold off on the letters, faxes and calls to the Governors office, I will be in touch.
Yours in Conservation
Harold L. Palmer President
New York State Conservation Council, Inc.
Hello Concerned Conservationists.
This morning I received a call from Commissioner Grannis. He said the Governor got my message and the pheasant farm will not be closed and the birds will remain. Commissioner Grannis asked that I work with the department on funding for all programs.At this time hold off on the letters, faxes and calls to the Governors office, I will be in touch.
Yours in Conservation
Harold L. Palmer President
New York State Conservation Council, Inc.
Wednesday, January 14, 2009
ATF Explosive and FFL regulations
New rules bpb~
Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives Bureau
RULES
Commerce in ExplosivesAmended Definition of “Propellant Actuated Device” (2004R–3P),
1878–1892 [E9–578]
[TEXT] [PDF]
Decision-Making Authority Regarding the Denial, Suspension, or Revocation of a Federal Firearms License, etc.,
1875–1878 [E9–527]
[TEXT] [PDF]
Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives Bureau
RULES
Commerce in ExplosivesAmended Definition of “Propellant Actuated Device” (2004R–3P),
1878–1892 [E9–578]
[TEXT] [PDF]
Decision-Making Authority Regarding the Denial, Suspension, or Revocation of a Federal Firearms License, etc.,
1875–1878 [E9–527]
[TEXT] [PDF]
Origins of the American Revolution
Tell me these words below aren't the actions of government happening today.
Scanned from John C. Miller’s book 1943
by BlackPowderBill Jan. 9,2008
290 ORIGINS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION
assembly and threatened the printer of the Virginia Gazette with the loss of his salary as official printer unless he kept his paper clear of radicalism. In consequence, the Whigs found that the only newspaper in the Old Dominion was "totally engrossed for the vile Purpose of ministerial Craft." 16 Moreover, it suspended publication for four months in 1765-1766 on the ground that no stamps could be procured.
The Virginia press was thus silenced during one of the most critical periods of the revolutionary era. The Sons of Liberty in the Middle colonies quickly came to the rescue, however, by sending a printer to Virginia to establish a Whig newspaper in the province. The royal governor soon found himself unable to maintain his control over the press: the old Virginia Gazette threw off the traces and became a Whig sheet and thus all the governor got for his pains was the establishment of two radical newspapers in place of one.17
The most significant work of the papers lay in uniting the colonies behind the leadership of the seaports. After the repeal of the Stamp Act, British taxation fell almost wholly upon the trading towns: the country people did not see the commissioners, customhouse officers, and admiralty judges who to the seagoing patriots were the embodiment of British tyranny.
It was vital to the success of the revolutionary movement that the farmers — who composed the great bulk of the population — be persuaded to come to the aid of the townsmen; yet they revealed an alarming disposition to regard the quarrel as being exclusively between the seaports and the British government.
To convince the farmers of their stake in the struggle, the town patriots were obliged to aim their propaganda at the weakest place in the people's armor: their fear of taxation by the British government. As a result, it was the farmers who, during the revolutionary period, snuffed tyranny in every tainted breeze and who lived in fear of future evils at the hands of the mother country. It would be more exact to say, however, that they did not snuff tyranny — they read about it in their weekly newspapers.
16 Maryland Gazette, October 17, 1765. New York Journal or General Advertiser, November 27, 1765.
17 James Parker to Benjamin Franklin, May 6, 1766, Franklin MSS., American Philosophical Society. New York Journal or General Advertiser, November 27, 1766.
THE COLLAPSE OF COLONIAL OPPOSITION 291
When serving up their propaganda, the Whigs believed that seasoning and spice ought to be used liberally. "People who have weak appetites must be warmed," said they.18
This recipe succeeded admirably in making the farmers quake for their liberty and property. A colonial farmer could scarcely pick up his newspaper without encountering dire warnings of his fate if the British Parliament succeeded in establishing its right to tax the colonies.
Then, predicted the Whig journalists, Americans would be buried beneath an avalanche of imposts: hearth taxes, window taxes, taxes upon imports, taxes upon exports, land taxes — nothing, it seemed, would escape the gimlet eye of the tax gatherer. As Americans studied this dismal catalogue, they might well conclude that they would shortly "be brought to a morsel of bread, or but one meal of meat in a week" in order that Englishmen might consume double rations.19 "Perhaps before long," remarked Alexander Hamilton, "your tables, chairs, and platters, and dishes, and knives, and forks, and every thing else, would be taxed.
Nay, I don't know but they would find means to tax you for. every child you got, and for every kiss your daughters received fronl their sweethearts; and, God knows, that would soon ruin you." 20 If farmers permitted Parliament to tax merchandise imported into the colonies, the fatal precedent would be established whereby they would be reduced to poverty and slavery.
For them to contend that they had "a Right to hold the Lands which they have honestly purchased," the Whigs pointed out, "will be as great a piece of Folly, as it was for the Merchants vainly to pretend that they had a Right to keep their own Money, which they had fairly gained after many a Risque in their Trade."
21
With these warnings dinned in their ears, it was not remarkable that country people began to ask each other: "What would you say, if a Fellow should come to take a list of your Cattle that Parliament might tax you for them at so much a head? ... If Parliament can take away Mr. Hancock's wharf and Mr. Row's wharf they can take away your Barn and my house."22
To prove that this alarm was not baseless, Americans had merely to point to Ireland as a dreadful example of what might happen...
18 Proceedings of the Massachusetts Historical Society, Boston, 1860, Second Series, IV, 382.
19 Essex Gazette, January 18, 1774.
20 Works of Alexander Hamilton, I, 36-37.
^Boston Gazette, December 23, 1771; August i, 1774.
22'Old Family Letters, edited by Alexander Biddle, Philadelphia, 1892, 140.
Even after 250+ years it seems our founding fathers were correct that any government, even back then liked to tax.
Regards BPB
Scanned from John C. Miller’s book 1943
by BlackPowderBill Jan. 9,2008
290 ORIGINS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION
assembly and threatened the printer of the Virginia Gazette with the loss of his salary as official printer unless he kept his paper clear of radicalism. In consequence, the Whigs found that the only newspaper in the Old Dominion was "totally engrossed for the vile Purpose of ministerial Craft." 16 Moreover, it suspended publication for four months in 1765-1766 on the ground that no stamps could be procured.
The Virginia press was thus silenced during one of the most critical periods of the revolutionary era. The Sons of Liberty in the Middle colonies quickly came to the rescue, however, by sending a printer to Virginia to establish a Whig newspaper in the province. The royal governor soon found himself unable to maintain his control over the press: the old Virginia Gazette threw off the traces and became a Whig sheet and thus all the governor got for his pains was the establishment of two radical newspapers in place of one.17
The most significant work of the papers lay in uniting the colonies behind the leadership of the seaports. After the repeal of the Stamp Act, British taxation fell almost wholly upon the trading towns: the country people did not see the commissioners, customhouse officers, and admiralty judges who to the seagoing patriots were the embodiment of British tyranny.
It was vital to the success of the revolutionary movement that the farmers — who composed the great bulk of the population — be persuaded to come to the aid of the townsmen; yet they revealed an alarming disposition to regard the quarrel as being exclusively between the seaports and the British government.
To convince the farmers of their stake in the struggle, the town patriots were obliged to aim their propaganda at the weakest place in the people's armor: their fear of taxation by the British government. As a result, it was the farmers who, during the revolutionary period, snuffed tyranny in every tainted breeze and who lived in fear of future evils at the hands of the mother country. It would be more exact to say, however, that they did not snuff tyranny — they read about it in their weekly newspapers.
16 Maryland Gazette, October 17, 1765. New York Journal or General Advertiser, November 27, 1765.
17 James Parker to Benjamin Franklin, May 6, 1766, Franklin MSS., American Philosophical Society. New York Journal or General Advertiser, November 27, 1766.
THE COLLAPSE OF COLONIAL OPPOSITION 291
When serving up their propaganda, the Whigs believed that seasoning and spice ought to be used liberally. "People who have weak appetites must be warmed," said they.18
This recipe succeeded admirably in making the farmers quake for their liberty and property. A colonial farmer could scarcely pick up his newspaper without encountering dire warnings of his fate if the British Parliament succeeded in establishing its right to tax the colonies.
Then, predicted the Whig journalists, Americans would be buried beneath an avalanche of imposts: hearth taxes, window taxes, taxes upon imports, taxes upon exports, land taxes — nothing, it seemed, would escape the gimlet eye of the tax gatherer. As Americans studied this dismal catalogue, they might well conclude that they would shortly "be brought to a morsel of bread, or but one meal of meat in a week" in order that Englishmen might consume double rations.19 "Perhaps before long," remarked Alexander Hamilton, "your tables, chairs, and platters, and dishes, and knives, and forks, and every thing else, would be taxed.
Nay, I don't know but they would find means to tax you for. every child you got, and for every kiss your daughters received fronl their sweethearts; and, God knows, that would soon ruin you." 20 If farmers permitted Parliament to tax merchandise imported into the colonies, the fatal precedent would be established whereby they would be reduced to poverty and slavery.
For them to contend that they had "a Right to hold the Lands which they have honestly purchased," the Whigs pointed out, "will be as great a piece of Folly, as it was for the Merchants vainly to pretend that they had a Right to keep their own Money, which they had fairly gained after many a Risque in their Trade."
21
With these warnings dinned in their ears, it was not remarkable that country people began to ask each other: "What would you say, if a Fellow should come to take a list of your Cattle that Parliament might tax you for them at so much a head? ... If Parliament can take away Mr. Hancock's wharf and Mr. Row's wharf they can take away your Barn and my house."22
To prove that this alarm was not baseless, Americans had merely to point to Ireland as a dreadful example of what might happen...
18 Proceedings of the Massachusetts Historical Society, Boston, 1860, Second Series, IV, 382.
19 Essex Gazette, January 18, 1774.
20 Works of Alexander Hamilton, I, 36-37.
^Boston Gazette, December 23, 1771; August i, 1774.
22'Old Family Letters, edited by Alexander Biddle, Philadelphia, 1892, 140.
Even after 250+ years it seems our founding fathers were correct that any government, even back then liked to tax.
Regards BPB
Monday, January 12, 2009
SCOPEny.org protest letters to the Governor
David A. Paterson, Governor
State of New York
State Capitol
Albany, NY 12224
(518) 474-8390
Dear Governor Patterson,
Before raising taxes and fees on New York State citizens in order to close the $13,000,000,000 budget gap, or canceling SCOPEny.org protest lettershighly valued yet relatively inexpensive programs such as the Reynolds farm pheasant-stocking program, you should consider eliminating costly and ineffective programs.
Accordingly, the Genesee County Chapter of the Shooters Committee on Political Education (S.C.O.P.E.) strongly urges the elimination of the Combined Ballistic Information System (COBIS) in New York State.
Since the implementation of this program in 2001, this program has cost New York state taxpayers approximately $30 million with no tangible results. For example, 212,080 firearms have been entered into the database and only two matching ‘hits’ were found. Neither of these hits has resulted in arrest or conviction.
Detailed studies of analogous systems in California and Maryland have shown similarly poor results and concluded that these systems are inherently flawed and easily defeated. For instance, simple wear from repeated firing changes the characteristics of fired shell casings enough to raise considerable doubt about the accuracy of such tests. Shell casings that strike the ground show abrasion that may confound necessary comparisons. Revolvers do not leave casings, and criminals can simply pick up ejected casings and destroy such evidence. Furthermore, one simple brush of a firearm’s chamber with sandpaper will render any useable comparisons meaningless. Lastly, the program presumes that criminals obtain their firearms legally, a disingenuous and unsubstantiated claim. Ultimately these studies recommended that California and Maryland discontinue their programs.
We urge you to abandon New York’s costly and wasteful COBIS program.
Respectfully,
Concerned citizen and
Member, SCOPE Genesee County Chapter
Printed below is the text of a letter being sent from Yates County SCOPE to Governor Patterson with copies to Senator George Winner and Assemblyman Jim Bacalles. This letter will also be provided to the Rochester D & C, Finger Lakes Times, Canandaigua Messenger, Penn Yan Chronicle Advisor, Dundee Observer and New York Outdoor News.
We are also sending all of our members a prepaid and addressed postcard (about 150) asking them to sign and mail to the governor. Extra copies will be made available to the three gun dealers in Yates County to give to customers. The postcards message is a summary of the letter posted below the line.
State of New York
State Capitol
Albany, NY 12224
(518) 474-8390
Dear Governor Patterson,
Before raising taxes and fees on New York State citizens in order to close the $13,000,000,000 budget gap, or canceling SCOPEny.org protest lettershighly valued yet relatively inexpensive programs such as the Reynolds farm pheasant-stocking program, you should consider eliminating costly and ineffective programs.
Accordingly, the Genesee County Chapter of the Shooters Committee on Political Education (S.C.O.P.E.) strongly urges the elimination of the Combined Ballistic Information System (COBIS) in New York State.
Since the implementation of this program in 2001, this program has cost New York state taxpayers approximately $30 million with no tangible results. For example, 212,080 firearms have been entered into the database and only two matching ‘hits’ were found. Neither of these hits has resulted in arrest or conviction.
Detailed studies of analogous systems in California and Maryland have shown similarly poor results and concluded that these systems are inherently flawed and easily defeated. For instance, simple wear from repeated firing changes the characteristics of fired shell casings enough to raise considerable doubt about the accuracy of such tests. Shell casings that strike the ground show abrasion that may confound necessary comparisons. Revolvers do not leave casings, and criminals can simply pick up ejected casings and destroy such evidence. Furthermore, one simple brush of a firearm’s chamber with sandpaper will render any useable comparisons meaningless. Lastly, the program presumes that criminals obtain their firearms legally, a disingenuous and unsubstantiated claim. Ultimately these studies recommended that California and Maryland discontinue their programs.
We urge you to abandon New York’s costly and wasteful COBIS program.
Respectfully,
Concerned citizen and
Member, SCOPE Genesee County Chapter
Printed below is the text of a letter being sent from Yates County SCOPE to Governor Patterson with copies to Senator George Winner and Assemblyman Jim Bacalles. This letter will also be provided to the Rochester D & C, Finger Lakes Times, Canandaigua Messenger, Penn Yan Chronicle Advisor, Dundee Observer and New York Outdoor News.
We are also sending all of our members a prepaid and addressed postcard (about 150) asking them to sign and mail to the governor. Extra copies will be made available to the three gun dealers in Yates County to give to customers. The postcards message is a summary of the letter posted below the line.
Sunday, January 11, 2009
NY Democrats seize control of state Senate
History was made in Albany this past week as Senate Democrats took leadership control over the chamber for the first time in more than 40 years. Senator Malcolm Smith (D-Queens) was elected Majority Leader by a 32 – 29 vote on Wednesday. Smith pledged to reform the rules of the Senate.
“Imagine a fully functioning Legislature where Senate committees function like real committees, where members debate and even amend bills in the committee, where members of the majority and minority introduce bills onto the floor for a vote, and those votes are recorded," he said. Later Smith announced that a bipartisan committee had been created to examine the rules and would report back to the Senate by the end of September. Democrats now control both houses of the legislature and the executive branch.
New York Legislature tagged as still broken
The Brennan Center for Justice at New York University Law School has called the New York State Legislature the most dysfunctional in the nation for the second time in five years. According to a recent report issued by NYU’s law school, New York State's legislature is still broken.
The report called it the most dysfunctional, anti-democratic, boss-ruled, slovenly legislature in the country.
The report says, “Most legislative standing committees met infrequently or not at all during 2006 and 2007. There were almost no hearings on major legislation. Not a single major bill was the subject of a detailed committee report.
Leadership maintained near total control over what bills reached the floor. And on the floor, there was little substantive debate; every bill brought to the floor for a vote in either chamber passed.”
The report cites the Senate, now under Democratic control for the first time in decades, as a glimmer of hope to bring real reform to the system that has been broken for years. To view the report, click here.
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“Imagine a fully functioning Legislature where Senate committees function like real committees, where members debate and even amend bills in the committee, where members of the majority and minority introduce bills onto the floor for a vote, and those votes are recorded," he said. Later Smith announced that a bipartisan committee had been created to examine the rules and would report back to the Senate by the end of September. Democrats now control both houses of the legislature and the executive branch.
New York Legislature tagged as still broken
The Brennan Center for Justice at New York University Law School has called the New York State Legislature the most dysfunctional in the nation for the second time in five years. According to a recent report issued by NYU’s law school, New York State's legislature is still broken.
The report called it the most dysfunctional, anti-democratic, boss-ruled, slovenly legislature in the country.
The report says, “Most legislative standing committees met infrequently or not at all during 2006 and 2007. There were almost no hearings on major legislation. Not a single major bill was the subject of a detailed committee report.
Leadership maintained near total control over what bills reached the floor. And on the floor, there was little substantive debate; every bill brought to the floor for a vote in either chamber passed.”
The report cites the Senate, now under Democratic control for the first time in decades, as a glimmer of hope to bring real reform to the system that has been broken for years. To view the report, click here.
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Wednesday, January 7, 2009
ATF's 4473 a shortage of forms~
A shortage in forms.
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/010609atf_f4473shortage-notice.htm
U.S. Department of Justice
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
Assistant Director
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Washington, DC 20226
January 6, 2009
Notice to All Federal Firearms Licensees Regarding ATF Form 4473 Shortage
As a result of an unprecedented increase in demand for ATF Forms 4473 (5300.9) Part I Revised August 2008, inventory of the form at the ATF Distribution Center is running low.
As a temporary measure, ATF is allowing FFLs to photocopy the form 4473 in it’s entirety until they receive their orders from the ATF Distribution Center.
A notice will be posted at the expiration of this temporary authorized change.
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/010609atf_f4473shortage-notice.htm
U.S. Department of Justice
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
Assistant Director
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Washington, DC 20226
January 6, 2009
Notice to All Federal Firearms Licensees Regarding ATF Form 4473 Shortage
As a result of an unprecedented increase in demand for ATF Forms 4473 (5300.9) Part I Revised August 2008, inventory of the form at the ATF Distribution Center is running low.
As a temporary measure, ATF is allowing FFLs to photocopy the form 4473 in it’s entirety until they receive their orders from the ATF Distribution Center.
A notice will be posted at the expiration of this temporary authorized change.
Tuesday, January 6, 2009
1st SCOPEny.org Legislative Report of 2009
The 1st SCOPEny.org Legislative Report of 2009 has been posted to our website at
http://scopeny.org/ARCHIVES/SCOPE_Legislative_Report.pdf
This report will be updated as necessary during the legislative session, the next few weeks will see all the usual anti gun bills reintroduced and most likely some new ones.
Ken Mathison, President
SCOPE, Inc.
http://scopeny.org/ARCHIVES/SCOPE_Legislative_Report.pdf
This report will be updated as necessary during the legislative session, the next few weeks will see all the usual anti gun bills reintroduced and most likely some new ones.
Ken Mathison, President
SCOPE, Inc.
Sunday, January 4, 2009
NYSCC direction on DEC budget cuts
FYI: just cause I post it "does not" mean I agree with everything that is written.
update Jan 7~ I've posted a reply to the NYSCC letter below.
Gary Hungerford makes some realistic points. I've also added a link to Magnuson Act; however I can not locate the Supreme court comments.
bpb
Hello all concerned sportsmen.
As everyone has heard, we are facing some major cuts in the programs and staff that DEC provides for us through the Conservation Fund. Much of the funding for the Conservation Fund comes from the fees we spend on hunting, fishing and trapping licenses, and the federal dollars that are returned from federal taxes on equipment we buy, with some money also coming from the General Fund. This year there is less money coming in from the General Fund, which is adding to the deficit in the Conservation Fund.
In previous years there was talk of license fee increases, which the NYSCC opposed because of lack of support in the Legislature to lower the age to hunt big game. In 2008 this legislation passed, and now 14 and 15 years old can hunt big game.
I anticipated a proposal by DEC for license fee increases, which did not occur. Instead, the Governor's office and Budget and Finance decided to do away with the pheasant program, even though it brought in millions of dollars. Hopefully we can get money set up in a dedicated account to protect the pheasant program in future years. I have meetings set up with the hopes of saving the pheasant program for this year.
In the Governor's budget bills, there is also language to create a $10 trout and salmon stamp that would be required of everyone who will fish waters that are listed as trout waters. This would not be so bad - IF the money went into a special account for raising and stocking trout and salmon; at least we would have a means of protecting the fish hatcheries.
The $19 marine recreational fishing license will put New York State in compliance with federal regulations requiring a registry of all marine recreational anglers; but in the Governor's budget bill, nothing would go back to the marine district. Also, anyone fishing the Hudson River up to the Troy dam would need that marine license. Adding that to the cost of a freshwater license totals $38.
Capital projects money from the EPF for repairs to the fish hatcheries has been cut from $5 million to $1.5 million, and probably will be cut more.
At the January 3rd Board of Directors' meeting of the NYSCC, the Directors agreed that these issues could not wait until the NYSCC's Legislative Meeting in March. The Board voted as follows:
1- To support a reasonable increase in license fees;
2- To support the Trout and Salmon stamp, with monies dedicated to the maintenance and staffing of fish hatcheries and the stocking of fish; and to change the wording to "State stamp required when angling for and in possession of trout or salmon";
3- To support the creation of a pheasant stamp, with the money dedicated to raising and/ or purchasing pheasants and the stocking of pheasants on lands open to hunting by sportsmen;
4- To support the marine fishing license, with a couple of changes: $6 to go into the Conservation Fund to cover costs incurred, with the remainder going into the marine account. Also, a combination license at $29 should be offered;
5- To support the bottle bill: add a 5-cent deposit on non-carbonated beverage containers, with all unclaimed container return money going to the EPF;
I hope everyone can support these measures, so that we can keep our programs intact.
Please send me your comments.
Yours in Conservation,
Harold L. Palmer
President
New York State Conservation Council, Inc.
607-638-9013
==================================================
From: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCOPEny/post?postID=fjZDf9ZUCxX10w4ooCYqrVVDGYJiYryvRApAXLsobyU6fOXUbko5xHCsjJbHy9-ptcd86cOg1QlYsicTo: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCOPEny/post?postID=bCxO7P1qB3fHb6WZ6t-7KXs_vtUNcCaZNOLGipbjQTAIhJtHogye0UEQT9mZ41UfZC6Ln1zVBasLP5Kg34BJ2IkSent: 1/6/2009 11:37:11
A.M. Eastern Standard TimeSubj: NYSCC position on fee/license increases
Harold:
I've just finished reading your column, in the January edition of the Grass Roots News.I find I must take significant exception, to many of the things you support and, thru you, NYSCC supports.
Please let me clarify one item, since you don't seem to beaware of it. It was not Patterson, who decided to shut down theReynold's Game Farm.
The decision came from Judith Enck, the anti-conservationist, pro-tree-hugger, who has wanted to be rid of it andall similar programs, for as long as she has been aware of them.You ask what you can OFFER the governor, to save the pheasantprogram. You can't offer him anything! He agrees with Enck. Bothunderstand that the cost of the program is returned, many times over,thru license fees and taxes. They don't care. It's their excuse toeliminate another element of hunting, in NYS.You support the $10 salmon/trout stamp.
How can you? If youaccept this, what's coming next? Separate stamps, for each of crappie, walleye, pike, pickerel, pumpkinseed, smallmouth bass,largemouth bass, etc.?
It will never end, until they have made thesport financially impossible, for all except those with private lakes or the money to pay $500~$1,000, annually, to fish in freshwater.If they get away with that one, there will be deer stamps,antler stamps, bear stamps, moose stamps, turkey stamps, etc.
You support the saltwater fishing license, accepting theargument that, if NYS doesn't do it, the feds will do it. You know that argument doesn't hold water. You and I have been thru the details of the Magnuson Act and the Supreme Court ruling about how,when and why the feds can create databases, as well as the fact that the feds must provide funding for it, if they want it and if they can, constitutionally, justify it, which they can't.
NYS is just using what they know to be an illegally required database as their excuse, to steal more tax money, while reducing thenumber of anglers. Once implemented, regardless of the allegedreason, it will never be withdrawn and the cost will only go up, sothey can spend more of our dollars against us, never for us, followedby striped bass stamps, bluefish stamps, porgy stamps, etc.
Nothing will come of the saltwater license, except another source for corrupted spending, by NYS' politicians. Yes, I expect they will ram it down our throats, this year, because they control both legislative houses and the governor's office.
There's no one to stop them. That doesn't mean we should tell them we agree or help them!
Gary
update Jan 7~ I've posted a reply to the NYSCC letter below.
Gary Hungerford makes some realistic points. I've also added a link to Magnuson Act; however I can not locate the Supreme court comments.
bpb
Hello all concerned sportsmen.
As everyone has heard, we are facing some major cuts in the programs and staff that DEC provides for us through the Conservation Fund. Much of the funding for the Conservation Fund comes from the fees we spend on hunting, fishing and trapping licenses, and the federal dollars that are returned from federal taxes on equipment we buy, with some money also coming from the General Fund. This year there is less money coming in from the General Fund, which is adding to the deficit in the Conservation Fund.
In previous years there was talk of license fee increases, which the NYSCC opposed because of lack of support in the Legislature to lower the age to hunt big game. In 2008 this legislation passed, and now 14 and 15 years old can hunt big game.
I anticipated a proposal by DEC for license fee increases, which did not occur. Instead, the Governor's office and Budget and Finance decided to do away with the pheasant program, even though it brought in millions of dollars. Hopefully we can get money set up in a dedicated account to protect the pheasant program in future years. I have meetings set up with the hopes of saving the pheasant program for this year.
In the Governor's budget bills, there is also language to create a $10 trout and salmon stamp that would be required of everyone who will fish waters that are listed as trout waters. This would not be so bad - IF the money went into a special account for raising and stocking trout and salmon; at least we would have a means of protecting the fish hatcheries.
The $19 marine recreational fishing license will put New York State in compliance with federal regulations requiring a registry of all marine recreational anglers; but in the Governor's budget bill, nothing would go back to the marine district. Also, anyone fishing the Hudson River up to the Troy dam would need that marine license. Adding that to the cost of a freshwater license totals $38.
Capital projects money from the EPF for repairs to the fish hatcheries has been cut from $5 million to $1.5 million, and probably will be cut more.
At the January 3rd Board of Directors' meeting of the NYSCC, the Directors agreed that these issues could not wait until the NYSCC's Legislative Meeting in March. The Board voted as follows:
1- To support a reasonable increase in license fees;
2- To support the Trout and Salmon stamp, with monies dedicated to the maintenance and staffing of fish hatcheries and the stocking of fish; and to change the wording to "State stamp required when angling for and in possession of trout or salmon";
3- To support the creation of a pheasant stamp, with the money dedicated to raising and/ or purchasing pheasants and the stocking of pheasants on lands open to hunting by sportsmen;
4- To support the marine fishing license, with a couple of changes: $6 to go into the Conservation Fund to cover costs incurred, with the remainder going into the marine account. Also, a combination license at $29 should be offered;
5- To support the bottle bill: add a 5-cent deposit on non-carbonated beverage containers, with all unclaimed container return money going to the EPF;
I hope everyone can support these measures, so that we can keep our programs intact.
Please send me your comments.
Yours in Conservation,
Harold L. Palmer
President
New York State Conservation Council, Inc.
607-638-9013
==================================================
From: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCOPEny/post?postID=fjZDf9ZUCxX10w4ooCYqrVVDGYJiYryvRApAXLsobyU6fOXUbko5xHCsjJbHy9-ptcd86cOg1QlYsicTo: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCOPEny/post?postID=bCxO7P1qB3fHb6WZ6t-7KXs_vtUNcCaZNOLGipbjQTAIhJtHogye0UEQT9mZ41UfZC6Ln1zVBasLP5Kg34BJ2IkSent: 1/6/2009 11:37:11
A.M. Eastern Standard TimeSubj: NYSCC position on fee/license increases
Harold:
I've just finished reading your column, in the January edition of the Grass Roots News.I find I must take significant exception, to many of the things you support and, thru you, NYSCC supports.
Please let me clarify one item, since you don't seem to beaware of it. It was not Patterson, who decided to shut down theReynold's Game Farm.
The decision came from Judith Enck, the anti-conservationist, pro-tree-hugger, who has wanted to be rid of it andall similar programs, for as long as she has been aware of them.You ask what you can OFFER the governor, to save the pheasantprogram. You can't offer him anything! He agrees with Enck. Bothunderstand that the cost of the program is returned, many times over,thru license fees and taxes. They don't care. It's their excuse toeliminate another element of hunting, in NYS.You support the $10 salmon/trout stamp.
How can you? If youaccept this, what's coming next? Separate stamps, for each of crappie, walleye, pike, pickerel, pumpkinseed, smallmouth bass,largemouth bass, etc.?
It will never end, until they have made thesport financially impossible, for all except those with private lakes or the money to pay $500~$1,000, annually, to fish in freshwater.If they get away with that one, there will be deer stamps,antler stamps, bear stamps, moose stamps, turkey stamps, etc.
You support the saltwater fishing license, accepting theargument that, if NYS doesn't do it, the feds will do it. You know that argument doesn't hold water. You and I have been thru the details of the Magnuson Act and the Supreme Court ruling about how,when and why the feds can create databases, as well as the fact that the feds must provide funding for it, if they want it and if they can, constitutionally, justify it, which they can't.
NYS is just using what they know to be an illegally required database as their excuse, to steal more tax money, while reducing thenumber of anglers. Once implemented, regardless of the allegedreason, it will never be withdrawn and the cost will only go up, sothey can spend more of our dollars against us, never for us, followedby striped bass stamps, bluefish stamps, porgy stamps, etc.
Nothing will come of the saltwater license, except another source for corrupted spending, by NYS' politicians. Yes, I expect they will ram it down our throats, this year, because they control both legislative houses and the governor's office.
There's no one to stop them. That doesn't mean we should tell them we agree or help them!
Gary
Saturday, January 3, 2009
Duck hunting on Onodaga Lake under fire!
Poll and story, you guys know the routine~ BPB
Duck hunting controversy on Onondaga Lake
http://www.cnycentral.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=241403
Poll
Should duck hunting be allowed on Onondaga Lake?
Yes
No
You must make a selection.
update Jan 4~
WELL kick me in the berries. I see the complainant is none other than Bryan Pease and his mother Terry. Bryan was arrested at Marshal's farm in North Rose a few years back. He has several arrest and is now a lawyer in S.Calif. Last I had heard of him he was protecting seals on the docks San Diego.
His Daddy is a federal Asst. DA.
Geeze wish my Daddy was a lawyer and could keep me and my criminal activity all at misdemeanors.
bpb
Duck hunting controversy on Onondaga Lake
http://www.cnycentral.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=241403
Poll
Should duck hunting be allowed on Onondaga Lake?
Yes
No
You must make a selection.
update Jan 4~
WELL kick me in the berries. I see the complainant is none other than Bryan Pease and his mother Terry. Bryan was arrested at Marshal's farm in North Rose a few years back. He has several arrest and is now a lawyer in S.Calif. Last I had heard of him he was protecting seals on the docks San Diego.
His Daddy is a federal Asst. DA.
Geeze wish my Daddy was a lawyer and could keep me and my criminal activity all at misdemeanors.
bpb
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