My GOD an American manufacturing corporation!
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Friday, June 29, 2012
Another epic failure of "YES WE CAN"! Abound Solar GONE!
By Mark Jaffe, The Denver Post 06/28/2012 - 3:36 PM EDT
The bankruptcy of Abound Solar, the solar panel maker with facilities in Longmont, Loveland and Fort Collins, will cost taxpayers $40 million to $60 million, according to the U.S. Department of Energy.
The company will close its doors next week and file for liquidation, according to a company statement. The closing will affect about 125 workers.
In July 2010, Abound received a $400 million loan guarantee from the DOE to build an Indiana factory and expand its Longmont plant.
Follw the link to read more. For me I've seen enought BullShit to last a life time!
Bankruptcy of Colorado's Abound Solar could cost taxpayers $60 million
If you want a detailed article read this one. Details the Denver liberal didn't tell you about.
At the center is wealthy Colorado philanthropist Pat Stryker, whose Bohemian Companies had significant investment in Abound. News Web site The Complete Colorado revealed “fingerprints” of a “pay-to-play agenda” when Abound received its conditional approval in September 2010. Stryker had donated $475,599 to federal Democrat candidates and causes over the 2008 to 2012 election cycles, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Included in that amount was $11,900 in maximum contributions to President Obama’s two campaigns for the White House, and Stryker also was an $87,500 bundler for the president’s Inaugural Committee, the People’s Press Collective discovered, and she donated $50,000 herself. The Sunlight Foundation also reported that she gave $35,800 to the 2012 Obama Victory Fund, and in October 2009 Stryker also visited the White House.
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Yes we can! Strip you of every dime!
Reguards
BPB
The bankruptcy of Abound Solar, the solar panel maker with facilities in Longmont, Loveland and Fort Collins, will cost taxpayers $40 million to $60 million, according to the U.S. Department of Energy.
The company will close its doors next week and file for liquidation, according to a company statement. The closing will affect about 125 workers.
In July 2010, Abound received a $400 million loan guarantee from the DOE to build an Indiana factory and expand its Longmont plant.
Follw the link to read more. For me I've seen enought BullShit to last a life time!
Bankruptcy of Colorado's Abound Solar could cost taxpayers $60 million
If you want a detailed article read this one. Details the Denver liberal didn't tell you about.
At the center is wealthy Colorado philanthropist Pat Stryker, whose Bohemian Companies had significant investment in Abound. News Web site The Complete Colorado revealed “fingerprints” of a “pay-to-play agenda” when Abound received its conditional approval in September 2010. Stryker had donated $475,599 to federal Democrat candidates and causes over the 2008 to 2012 election cycles, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Included in that amount was $11,900 in maximum contributions to President Obama’s two campaigns for the White House, and Stryker also was an $87,500 bundler for the president’s Inaugural Committee, the People’s Press Collective discovered, and she donated $50,000 herself. The Sunlight Foundation also reported that she gave $35,800 to the 2012 Obama Victory Fund, and in October 2009 Stryker also visited the White House.
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Yes we can! Strip you of every dime!
Reguards
BPB
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Comes with 3 magazines & a clip to attach 2 magazines to the stock!
Contact BlackPowderBill
FFL dealer in longarms and reloading supplies.
Visit me on GunBroker.com under BPBRS
Thursday, June 28, 2012
The not so Transparent Center for Biological Diversity, let it burn.
According to this article, here the CBD leaves a few facts out. Which backs my general argument up that I'm having on the WildEarth Guardians over here at KUNM. My argument is, enviros are not working to provide a better land for all. They are working to win at all cost to close down land public and private using old laws and twisting the intent of the laws.
See my earlier thread on trapping in New Mexico~here
Here is another article backing me up on my claim that the land needs to be managed.
project-could-have-lessened-fire-damage
One of the enviros argument was to protect the water shed. Locals are preparing for to be flooded out since the wilfires have scorched the earth. Read the flood article here.
Project could have lessened fire damageErik LeDuc ebearer@ruidosonews.comPosted: 06/26/2012 08:14:39 PM MDT
Forest Service official: Environmental groups delayed thinning
Damage from the Little Bear Fire could have been reduced if a proposed Forest Service thinning project had not been delayed by an appeal from two environmental groups, a Forest Service official said Tuesday.
"Any type of treatment we could have done would have reduced the severity of the fire," said Chad Stewart, fire and timber officer for the Lincoln National Forest. While the fire as a whole could not have been stopped by thinning efforts, especially in the face of 40 mph wind gusts, damage to the Bonito watershed likely would have been greatly reduced, he said.
The thinning project, aimed at 11,600 acres surrounding Bonito Lake was delayed by an appeal from the two environmental groups in late 2011.
Regards ,BPB
DOJ Documents Confirm Center for Biological Diversity Received Millions in Taxpayer Funds from ESA-Related Lawsuits
WASHINGTON, D.C. – The Center for Biological Diversity today sent a letter to House Natural Resources Committee Chairman Doc Hastings claiming their organization had only received $553,000 in taxpayer funds resulting from Endangered Species Act (ESA) related attorney fees and court cases. This claim conflicts with data obtained from the Department of Justice (DOJ), which shows over $2 million in taxpayer dollars have been paid out to the Center for Biological Diversity and their attorneys for cases open between 2009-2012.
The Center for Biological Diversity appears to have derived their erroneous number by including only checks made out directly to the Center for Biological Diversity over a select period of years. Attorney fees are typically paid out to the attorney of record. The Center for Biological Diversity is conveniently failing to include the majority of funds that were paid directly to their hired lawyers. Nine of the lawyers who have received payouts are currently employed by the Center for Biological Diversity.
“American taxpayers have a right to know how much of their money is going to pay attorneys and settlement costs for lawsuit-happy organizations that make a living off of suing the federal government. The numbers from the Justice Department speak for themselves,” said Chairman Hastings. “One frequent collector of taxpayer dollars spent a week inventing a way to misconstrue and hide data to make it appear as though they haven’t received millions in taxpayer dollars. The most direct way to have openness and transparency on exactly what funds a group has taken from taxpayers in ESA-related settlement and attorney fees is for them to publicly reveal all of their data for the past two decades.”
On March 19, 2012, Chairman Hastings sent a letter to the Environment and Natural Resources Division of the Department of Justice asking for detailed information on how much taxpayer money is being spent on ESA-related litigation and settlements. In response to this request, DOJ ran a search through their Case Management System (“CMS”) and provided the Committee information based on all cases where the ESA was one of the statutes at issue in the litigation.
According to this document from the DOJ containing 276 pages of case information, the Center for Biological Diversity was involved in over 50 individual cases, open between 2009 and 2012, where they were the lead plaintiff. The amount of attorney fees and court costs associated with these cases is $2,286,686.91. Of this amount, $138,114.45 was in court costs and $2,148,572.46 was in attorney fees.
These five examples alone of court cases filed by the Center for Biological Diversity where CBD received attorney fee payments between 2009-2012 far exceeds the $553,00 that the Center for Biological Diversity claims to have received:
· Center for Biological Diversity v. Environmental Protection Agency, et. al. in California; paid $172,000 on November 22, 2010 to attorney for CBD Justin Augustine.
· Center for Biological Diversity et. al., v. U.S. Army Corps of Engineers in Montana; paid $165,000 on March 23, 2009 to attorney for CBD Geoff Hickox.
· Center for Biological Diversity et. al., v. Kempthorne in Arizona; paid $159,044 on February 9, 2012 to attorney for CBD Melanie Kay.
· Center for Biological Diversity v. U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service in Arizona; paid $95,000 on April 23, 2010 to attorney for CBD Geoff Hickox.
· Center for Biological Diversity et. al., v. Kempthorne in Arizona; paid $51,866 on August 13, 2009 to attorney for CBD John T. Buse.
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See my earlier thread on trapping in New Mexico~here
Here is another article backing me up on my claim that the land needs to be managed.
project-could-have-lessened-fire-damage
One of the enviros argument was to protect the water shed. Locals are preparing for to be flooded out since the wilfires have scorched the earth. Read the flood article here.
Project could have lessened fire damageErik LeDuc ebearer@ruidosonews.comPosted: 06/26/2012 08:14:39 PM MDT
Forest Service official: Environmental groups delayed thinning
Damage from the Little Bear Fire could have been reduced if a proposed Forest Service thinning project had not been delayed by an appeal from two environmental groups, a Forest Service official said Tuesday.
"Any type of treatment we could have done would have reduced the severity of the fire," said Chad Stewart, fire and timber officer for the Lincoln National Forest. While the fire as a whole could not have been stopped by thinning efforts, especially in the face of 40 mph wind gusts, damage to the Bonito watershed likely would have been greatly reduced, he said.
The thinning project, aimed at 11,600 acres surrounding Bonito Lake was delayed by an appeal from the two environmental groups in late 2011.
Regards ,BPB
DOJ Documents Confirm Center for Biological Diversity Received Millions in Taxpayer Funds from ESA-Related Lawsuits
WASHINGTON, D.C. – The Center for Biological Diversity today sent a letter to House Natural Resources Committee Chairman Doc Hastings claiming their organization had only received $553,000 in taxpayer funds resulting from Endangered Species Act (ESA) related attorney fees and court cases. This claim conflicts with data obtained from the Department of Justice (DOJ), which shows over $2 million in taxpayer dollars have been paid out to the Center for Biological Diversity and their attorneys for cases open between 2009-2012.
The Center for Biological Diversity appears to have derived their erroneous number by including only checks made out directly to the Center for Biological Diversity over a select period of years. Attorney fees are typically paid out to the attorney of record. The Center for Biological Diversity is conveniently failing to include the majority of funds that were paid directly to their hired lawyers. Nine of the lawyers who have received payouts are currently employed by the Center for Biological Diversity.
“American taxpayers have a right to know how much of their money is going to pay attorneys and settlement costs for lawsuit-happy organizations that make a living off of suing the federal government. The numbers from the Justice Department speak for themselves,” said Chairman Hastings. “One frequent collector of taxpayer dollars spent a week inventing a way to misconstrue and hide data to make it appear as though they haven’t received millions in taxpayer dollars. The most direct way to have openness and transparency on exactly what funds a group has taken from taxpayers in ESA-related settlement and attorney fees is for them to publicly reveal all of their data for the past two decades.”
On March 19, 2012, Chairman Hastings sent a letter to the Environment and Natural Resources Division of the Department of Justice asking for detailed information on how much taxpayer money is being spent on ESA-related litigation and settlements. In response to this request, DOJ ran a search through their Case Management System (“CMS”) and provided the Committee information based on all cases where the ESA was one of the statutes at issue in the litigation.
According to this document from the DOJ containing 276 pages of case information, the Center for Biological Diversity was involved in over 50 individual cases, open between 2009 and 2012, where they were the lead plaintiff. The amount of attorney fees and court costs associated with these cases is $2,286,686.91. Of this amount, $138,114.45 was in court costs and $2,148,572.46 was in attorney fees.
These five examples alone of court cases filed by the Center for Biological Diversity where CBD received attorney fee payments between 2009-2012 far exceeds the $553,00 that the Center for Biological Diversity claims to have received:
· Center for Biological Diversity v. Environmental Protection Agency, et. al. in California; paid $172,000 on November 22, 2010 to attorney for CBD Justin Augustine.
· Center for Biological Diversity et. al., v. U.S. Army Corps of Engineers in Montana; paid $165,000 on March 23, 2009 to attorney for CBD Geoff Hickox.
· Center for Biological Diversity et. al., v. Kempthorne in Arizona; paid $159,044 on February 9, 2012 to attorney for CBD Melanie Kay.
· Center for Biological Diversity v. U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service in Arizona; paid $95,000 on April 23, 2010 to attorney for CBD Geoff Hickox.
· Center for Biological Diversity et. al., v. Kempthorne in Arizona; paid $51,866 on August 13, 2009 to attorney for CBD John T. Buse.
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Thursday, June 21, 2012
Industry Groups Intervene in Trapping Lawsuit (New Mexico)
News Release For Immediate Release / June 18, 2012
For further information, contact:
Caren Cowan, New Mexico Cattle Growers Association, 505.247.0584
Industry Groups Intervene in Trapping Lawsuit
To protect the businesses and livelihoods of their memberships, groups representing hunters, fisherman, agriculture, trappers, and rural communities and economies have intervened in a lawsuit filed by the WildEarth Guardians against the New Mexico Department of Game & Fish.
The New Mexico Trappers Association, New Mexico Cattle Growers Association, New Mexico Wool Growers, Inc., New Mexico Federal Lands Council, New Mexico Council of Outfitters & Guides, New Mexico Farm and Livestock Bureau, Coalition of Arizona/New Mexico Counties for Stable Economic Growth and United Sportsmen for Fish & Wildlife, Inc., joined the lawsuit which would prohibit trapping in the southwestern New Mexico, in the Mexican Grey Wolf Recovery Area. The New Mexico Houndsmen as well as the Northern and the Southern New Mexico Chapters of the Safari Club assisted with funding. The Safari Club International also filed an Amicus Brief in support of the state.
“The big difference between our memberships and the WildEarth Guardians is that our members have everything to lose in this situation, and environmentalists have nothing at stake. If residents of southwestern New Mexico lose the ability to trap, they lose their ability to make a living ranching, hunting, trapping or outfitting – not to mention generations of tradition,” said New Mexico Cattle Growers Association President Rex Wilson, Carrizozo. “No environmentalists’ family businesses or lifelong investments are at risk in this situation.”
The WildEarth Guardians’ lawsuit claims that by allowing trapping of viable furbearer populations in the wolf recovery area, the NMDGF is allowing harm to the non-essential, experimental Mexican Grey Wolf, despite the fact that trapping the species is not allowed, Wilson explained. The federal reintroduction program for the Mexican Grey Wolf began in 1994.
“To date, millions of our tax dollars have been spent to reintroduce this predator, which is still struggling in the wild almost 20 years later,” said David Reese, United Sportsmen for Fish & Wildlife President, Belen. “The WildEarth Guardians are trying to use trapping as an excuse for the failure of the reintroduction program, which has been a monumental waste of time and resources since the beginning.”
Rural southwestern New Mexico’s economy is based on ranching, hunting, guiding and outfitting, all of which would be threatened if the lawsuit was successful. “Ranchers must have the ability to protect their livestock to stay in business,” said Bebo Lee, New Mexico Federal Lands Council President, Alamogordo. “Dealing with wolves on their operations has been hard enough on these ranchers – it’s too much to ask that they sacrifice even more of their herds to other predators.”
Hunting and trapping have a long history in New Mexico, as a family tradition, as a tool for wildlife management and in many cases, a successful livelihood. Despite the impacts of the wolf reintroduction program to the deer and elk herds in the Gila National Forest, guiding and outfitting is a big business, with a big impact on rural counties.
“The survival of our members’ businesses, and their ability to feed their families, depend on healthy wildlife populations, and that means balanced management which includes predator control,” said Marc Kincaid, New Mexico Wool Growers, Inc. President, Hope. “Aside from the potential financial impacts to our members and the small-town businesses they help support, it’s just irresponsible to put wildlife management in the hands of environmentalists and animal rights groups in Santa Fe whose only concerns are filing lawsuits and limiting land use.”
“This lawsuit has the potential to alter science based game management everywhere. The suit is designed to take game management out of the hands of states and move it to the courts. WildEarth now chastises the New Mexico Game Department for using sportsmen's dollars, not tax dollars, to defend New Mexicans and New Mexico's wildlife against a frivolous lawsuit. In court documents they seek to deny participation of an international conservation group, the Safari Club International in the litigation process.
It seems to be alright for the "guardians" to squander millions of sportsmen's and taxpayer dollars to advance their spiritual beliefs through court actions but, the very people that have paid the bills for wildlife recovery and management over the last century, can't play in their "sand box"; how ludicrous is that?" asked Tom McDowell President NMTA, Corrales. "Western states are dealing with the devastating impacts of forests being managed by the courts and anti-consumptive use groups. New Mexico and Arizona saw the largest fires in history in 2011 and we just set two more records in the past few weeks.
If WildEarth were to prevail with its current action, New Mexicans can say goodbye to their wildlife too."
For further information, contact:
Caren Cowan, New Mexico Cattle Growers Association, 505.247.0584
Industry Groups Intervene in Trapping Lawsuit
To protect the businesses and livelihoods of their memberships, groups representing hunters, fisherman, agriculture, trappers, and rural communities and economies have intervened in a lawsuit filed by the WildEarth Guardians against the New Mexico Department of Game & Fish.
The New Mexico Trappers Association, New Mexico Cattle Growers Association, New Mexico Wool Growers, Inc., New Mexico Federal Lands Council, New Mexico Council of Outfitters & Guides, New Mexico Farm and Livestock Bureau, Coalition of Arizona/New Mexico Counties for Stable Economic Growth and United Sportsmen for Fish & Wildlife, Inc., joined the lawsuit which would prohibit trapping in the southwestern New Mexico, in the Mexican Grey Wolf Recovery Area. The New Mexico Houndsmen as well as the Northern and the Southern New Mexico Chapters of the Safari Club assisted with funding. The Safari Club International also filed an Amicus Brief in support of the state.
“The big difference between our memberships and the WildEarth Guardians is that our members have everything to lose in this situation, and environmentalists have nothing at stake. If residents of southwestern New Mexico lose the ability to trap, they lose their ability to make a living ranching, hunting, trapping or outfitting – not to mention generations of tradition,” said New Mexico Cattle Growers Association President Rex Wilson, Carrizozo. “No environmentalists’ family businesses or lifelong investments are at risk in this situation.”
The WildEarth Guardians’ lawsuit claims that by allowing trapping of viable furbearer populations in the wolf recovery area, the NMDGF is allowing harm to the non-essential, experimental Mexican Grey Wolf, despite the fact that trapping the species is not allowed, Wilson explained. The federal reintroduction program for the Mexican Grey Wolf began in 1994.
“To date, millions of our tax dollars have been spent to reintroduce this predator, which is still struggling in the wild almost 20 years later,” said David Reese, United Sportsmen for Fish & Wildlife President, Belen. “The WildEarth Guardians are trying to use trapping as an excuse for the failure of the reintroduction program, which has been a monumental waste of time and resources since the beginning.”
Rural southwestern New Mexico’s economy is based on ranching, hunting, guiding and outfitting, all of which would be threatened if the lawsuit was successful. “Ranchers must have the ability to protect their livestock to stay in business,” said Bebo Lee, New Mexico Federal Lands Council President, Alamogordo. “Dealing with wolves on their operations has been hard enough on these ranchers – it’s too much to ask that they sacrifice even more of their herds to other predators.”
Hunting and trapping have a long history in New Mexico, as a family tradition, as a tool for wildlife management and in many cases, a successful livelihood. Despite the impacts of the wolf reintroduction program to the deer and elk herds in the Gila National Forest, guiding and outfitting is a big business, with a big impact on rural counties.
“The survival of our members’ businesses, and their ability to feed their families, depend on healthy wildlife populations, and that means balanced management which includes predator control,” said Marc Kincaid, New Mexico Wool Growers, Inc. President, Hope. “Aside from the potential financial impacts to our members and the small-town businesses they help support, it’s just irresponsible to put wildlife management in the hands of environmentalists and animal rights groups in Santa Fe whose only concerns are filing lawsuits and limiting land use.”
“This lawsuit has the potential to alter science based game management everywhere. The suit is designed to take game management out of the hands of states and move it to the courts. WildEarth now chastises the New Mexico Game Department for using sportsmen's dollars, not tax dollars, to defend New Mexicans and New Mexico's wildlife against a frivolous lawsuit. In court documents they seek to deny participation of an international conservation group, the Safari Club International in the litigation process.
It seems to be alright for the "guardians" to squander millions of sportsmen's and taxpayer dollars to advance their spiritual beliefs through court actions but, the very people that have paid the bills for wildlife recovery and management over the last century, can't play in their "sand box"; how ludicrous is that?" asked Tom McDowell President NMTA, Corrales. "Western states are dealing with the devastating impacts of forests being managed by the courts and anti-consumptive use groups. New Mexico and Arizona saw the largest fires in history in 2011 and we just set two more records in the past few weeks.
If WildEarth were to prevail with its current action, New Mexicans can say goodbye to their wildlife too."
Wednesday, June 20, 2012
NYSCC PROTESTS FEDERAL FUNDING LOSS
Letter to Governor Cuomo Regarding Federal Funding
NYSCC PROTESTS FEDERAL FUNDING LOSS
How can legislators claim to be responsible and working for
the people when they go down the road of losing millions of the peoples’ hard
earned dollars? We the people and stakeholders deserve better!
Sincerely
The following letter has been sent
to Governor Cuomo along with Senators DeFrancisco (Senate Finance Committee
Chair), Seward (Assistant Majority Leader, Conf. Ops) and Skelos (Temporary
President and Majority Leader) and Assembly Members Silver (Speaker) and Farrell
(Ways & Means Committee Chair).
The New York State Conservation Council, Inc. (NYSCC),
representing over 100 organizations and 900 hunting, fishing and trapping clubs
is deeply concerned that the funds generated through taxes and fees by the
sporting community are in danger of being lost to New York. The loss of
federal Pittman Robertson and Dingell Johnson funding, which could be as much as
$20 million, is not acceptable.
Section 13-a of Part U of the Revenue Article VII in the
enacted FY 2012-2013 State Budget will cause a loss of funding for the
management of our natural resources, fish, wildlife and habitat. Sound natural
resource management benefits the economy of our state through stakeholders in
their pursuit of outdoor recreational opportunities. The sportsmen and women
who faithfully paid the taxes and fees on firearms, hunting goods, fishing poles
and equipment will be cheated out of their fair share under the U.S. Fish and
Wildlife guidelines.
Howard O. Cushing, Jr.
PresidentFriday, June 15, 2012
Assembly Minority Leader Brian Kolb debates Assemblywoman Michelle Schim...
Debating micro-stamping~ more of the same anti legislation.
Assembly woman Shimmel comments how law enforcement deaths are #1. This is not true. According to officer down memorial page the cause of highest cause of death is vehicle. Total numbers for NY since 1909 is 1,468. with gufire , including accidental @ 551. Clearly firearms deaths are not a majority. Death by friendly fire is not indicated by a listing. however if you look at individual names they list how the officer died.
Assembly woman Shimmel comments how law enforcement deaths are #1. This is not true. According to officer down memorial page the cause of highest cause of death is vehicle. Total numbers for NY since 1909 is 1,468. with gufire , including accidental @ 551. Clearly firearms deaths are not a majority. Death by friendly fire is not indicated by a listing. however if you look at individual names they list how the officer died.
Monday, June 11, 2012
Mr. Schiff Returns to Washington FHA housing on multi-family housing
Congress afte 30 years of housing scams and cost still can't grasp government loans do not and have not worked in the past nor will they work in the furure.
Friday, June 8, 2012
Monday, June 4, 2012
Gov. Cuomo was not optimistic that microstamping legislation would be passed before the current legislative session ends
From the NSSF news:
•N.Y. GOVERNOR: POLITICS WON'T AFFECT FUNDING FOR GUN MAKERS . . . The New York Daily News reported that New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said he has no problem giving economic development funding to New York gun makers that have opposed a bill for microstamping that he wants to see passed. "I don't think (the state) should be in a position of funding or not funding based on my political position on microstamping," said the governor, according to the Daily News. The newspaper reported that the Empire State Development Corp. has awarded more than $6 million to Remington and Kimber since 2009 to upgrade their plants. The article added that Gov. Cuomo was not optimistic that microstamping legislation would be passed before the current legislative session ends.
IMO: BPB comments
Another waste of time and money.....one more reason to move out of NY.
•N.Y. GOVERNOR: POLITICS WON'T AFFECT FUNDING FOR GUN MAKERS . . . The New York Daily News reported that New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said he has no problem giving economic development funding to New York gun makers that have opposed a bill for microstamping that he wants to see passed. "I don't think (the state) should be in a position of funding or not funding based on my political position on microstamping," said the governor, according to the Daily News. The newspaper reported that the Empire State Development Corp. has awarded more than $6 million to Remington and Kimber since 2009 to upgrade their plants. The article added that Gov. Cuomo was not optimistic that microstamping legislation would be passed before the current legislative session ends.
IMO: BPB comments
Another waste of time and money.....one more reason to move out of NY.
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