Well CRAP at least I sent my letter out LOL
EPA rejects antis claim.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/27/epa-rejects-calls-ban-lead-ammo-fishing-tackle/
Lisa P. Jackson
Administrator, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
1200 Pennsylvania Ave., NW
Washington, DC 20460
(202) 564-4700
Fax: (202) 501-1450
Email: jackson.lisa@epa
Re: EPA-HQ-OPPT-2010-0681 Lead ban for sporting use.
Ms. Jackson,
Any ban on “lead” ammunition will totally devastate the antique as well as the entire shooting community. Traditional firearms such as muzzle loaders, Civil War, antique cartridge relic’s & reproductions are designed to shoot lead bullets only, with no alloy jacket. A muzzleloader bullet or Roundball is designed to have a cloth patch wrapped around it which enables the bullet to engage the rifling in the bore to create spin.
The smoothbore musket has no rifling and a patch and sometimes a wad are used in combination.
A rifled Civil War era firearm shoots a plain conical bullet with a grease lubricant. The lubricant like the patch keeps the lead from stripping off into the rifling. I.E. like oil in your vehicle lubricates a bearing by creating a barrier between the two surfaces.
Some later variations of cartridge rifles use a paper patch as the barrier between the bullet and the bore. The purpose of soft lead and patching are designed to seal the burning gun powder gasses behind the projectile.
The soft lead, (as close to pure as we can get); help make this all possible.
While modern cartridge firearms may be able to shoot an alloy style bullet if available & practical, the original and reproduction muskets & rifles can not.
There is “not” a replacement metal for this portion of the shooting community as the petitioner’s state.
The shooting community by large has engaged the EPA’s “best management range practices” when and where ever possible by recycling spend lead and brass, cleaning up ranges and testing & treating soils.
The shooting community according to industry uses only a mere fraction of the lead produced.
In fact industry figures show that the sources and uses of lead in the United States to be 3.5 billion pounds smelted annually. Of that approximately 85 million pounds is used in bullet manufacturing which is 2.5 to 3% of the total lead produced. I’d like to remind the EPA that much of this ammunition is to support our military and is being expended in other countries as I write this letter.
Also a majority of states have already adopted lead fishing sinker limitations.
Lead acid batteries are the largest product of lead use.
I am 54 years old and have been shooting since the age of 5. I have reloaded, cast and fired ammunition on a weekly basis for most of those years. I am also a HVAC technician and a licenser power plant operator. I can say with utmost confidence that I’ve been exposed to more than my share of lead particles. In 2000 I had my blood checked and all toxic blood levels were well below the EPA & CDC standards. My physical this year also verified my blood levels were again below published thresholds.
My 3 adult children have not had any positive lead indications either. Many of my friends, some 30 years my senior have had no ill effects based on lead used.
• A 2008 study by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on blood lead levels of North Dakota hunters confirmed that consuming game harvested with traditional ammunition does not pose a human health risk.
With all I mentioned above our conclusion is to ask the EPA to throw out the proposed ban on all lead ammunitions and fishing lead products.
From my past experiences with the Center for Biological Diversity they are underhanded and self serving. There proposal is designed to out law lead & ammunition in an effort to ban shooting, hunting & fishing.
The religious philosophies of those who have signed on to the lead ban petition are animal right zealots who will stop at nothing to ban all the above mentioned legal activities. The agenda of the CBD will devastate the shooting community by shutting many, if not all of us down.
Financially the taxes derived from the shooting activities above will also impact the Federal and State wildlife programs. The state and Federal wildlife programs directly benefit from taxes collected on sporting ammunition & products. To the best of my knowledge the Center for Biological Diversity & there co-sponsors never donated a dime to actually help wildlife. Instead they run around the country suing the government in an effort to ban hunting, fishing, shooting & trapping.
My fellow members & I take it very personal when someone is out to end our lifestyle. We don’t collect a paycheck like the opposition does.
Again, we ask the EPA to throw out the proposed ban on all lead ammunitions and fishing lead products. There is “not” a replacement metal for this portion of the shooting community as the petitioner’s state.
We oppose the proposal to ban all lead in ammunition and fishing tackle as alternatives are not yet available to all shooting & fishing sports.
Regards,
Wm. J. Brookover
5336 Lincoln Rd
Ontario, NY. 14519
President
New York State Muzzleloaders Association
WWW.NYSMLA.ORG
blackpowderbill@yahoo.com
Here is a link to the EPA's web site Lead Ban
Saturday, August 28, 2010
Friday, August 27, 2010
Kenyon's Camelot
Oh yea and the family of Kenyon's Camelot is enjoying their 6th vacation of the year. That's ah~ one vacation for every 1.4 months of community service in 2010.
What a difference a decade makes at the State Fair. New rides, new games and new exhibits. And as our Bill Carey reports, for Gubernatorial candidate Rick Lazio, a new-found love for the sausage sandwich. Rick could have went to the Yates SCOPE pig roast. Oh crap how silly of me~ then he would have had to have seen Palidino face to face.
Humm no mention of the embezzled money. So I will.
A former director of the New York State Fair used state resources to help put on weddings for his two daughters, and also gave away more than $700,000 worth of free fair and concert tickets to politicians, employees and other officials, an investigation by the New York State inspector general found. The report also said that the former director, Peter Cappuccilli Jr., paid more than $800,000 in salary to families and friends of employees.
What a difference a decade makes at the State Fair. New rides, new games and new exhibits. And as our Bill Carey reports, for Gubernatorial candidate Rick Lazio, a new-found love for the sausage sandwich. Rick could have went to the Yates SCOPE pig roast. Oh crap how silly of me~ then he would have had to have seen Palidino face to face.
Humm no mention of the embezzled money. So I will.
A former director of the New York State Fair used state resources to help put on weddings for his two daughters, and also gave away more than $700,000 worth of free fair and concert tickets to politicians, employees and other officials, an investigation by the New York State inspector general found. The report also said that the former director, Peter Cappuccilli Jr., paid more than $800,000 in salary to families and friends of employees.
Tuesday, August 24, 2010
SCOPE Wayne County Fall meeting dates
Our fall meetings start in a couple of weeks at American Legion Post in Marion. Every meeting is at 7PM. Always on the second Wednesday of the month:
September 8
October 13
November 10
Free food, 50/50 raffle at every meeting.
We will be voting on a few causes at the September meeting.
I'd like to "bring to the floor" that Wayne County Chapter sponsor the Second Amendment Radio show. Those guys are great promoters of the 2nd Amendment, and they have advertised our Chapter business at no charge.
I'd like to also propose that we buy an engraved plaque and present it as an award to Senator Mike Nozzolio as a token of appreciation for his work for our 2A rights. I spoke with the Senator for about 30 minutes at the Fair, he needs our support to take back control of the NY Senate from the Democrats. We were 2 votes away from the Microstamping bill in 2010. The bill WILL be back in 2011. Another important issue is redistricting of voting districts. Whichever party is in charge after the 2010 elections, will be in charge of voter district allocations. If the Democrats are still in control of senate, they will redistrict so that it will be next to impossible for any Republican to win an election in upstate NY. We need to support Senator Nozzolio, who is one of the senior members in the Senate and DEFINITELY is watching our back.
Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions?
Also, please remember and spread the word that the Youth Shoot/Range Day in Sodus is September 19th from 1 to 4PM.
I have posters up in 4 locations, if you want to help put posters up in "friendly" high traffic areas, let me know. I can email you a word document and you can print them out.
We need to sell more gun raffle tickets for the Remington R-15. I will be looking for volunteers to sell these, and I am sure anyone who hasn't bought tickets yet could use this beautiful rifle if they were lucky enough to win it.
John
September 8
October 13
November 10
Free food, 50/50 raffle at every meeting.
We will be voting on a few causes at the September meeting.
I'd like to "bring to the floor" that Wayne County Chapter sponsor the Second Amendment Radio show. Those guys are great promoters of the 2nd Amendment, and they have advertised our Chapter business at no charge.
I'd like to also propose that we buy an engraved plaque and present it as an award to Senator Mike Nozzolio as a token of appreciation for his work for our 2A rights. I spoke with the Senator for about 30 minutes at the Fair, he needs our support to take back control of the NY Senate from the Democrats. We were 2 votes away from the Microstamping bill in 2010. The bill WILL be back in 2011. Another important issue is redistricting of voting districts. Whichever party is in charge after the 2010 elections, will be in charge of voter district allocations. If the Democrats are still in control of senate, they will redistrict so that it will be next to impossible for any Republican to win an election in upstate NY. We need to support Senator Nozzolio, who is one of the senior members in the Senate and DEFINITELY is watching our back.
Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions?
Also, please remember and spread the word that the Youth Shoot/Range Day in Sodus is September 19th from 1 to 4PM.
I have posters up in 4 locations, if you want to help put posters up in "friendly" high traffic areas, let me know. I can email you a word document and you can print them out.
We need to sell more gun raffle tickets for the Remington R-15. I will be looking for volunteers to sell these, and I am sure anyone who hasn't bought tickets yet could use this beautiful rifle if they were lucky enough to win it.
John
Monday, August 23, 2010
NYSMLA.ORG's letter to APA & DEC Moose River Plains area
Dear APA;
As a New York State taxpayer, sportsman and user of the Moose River area I make the following comments on the Moose River Plains Unit Management Plan. As an organization the New York State Muzzleloaders take this issue to heart as they have been a special use group of this area for many years holding their “Primitive Rendezvous” annual in the meadow. If this UMP is not carefully crafted it will become an area which excludes many sportsman and women and while the “Wilderness” moniker is idealistic, it is not practical for the users of these resources. The following comments summarize the changes we support in moving the UMP to approval;
Support the intensive use corridor and roadside camping.
Extend the intensive use area from the Red River to the Limekiln Gate, allowing the placement of three to four more Camp sites and securing the entrance to the area.
Vehemently oppose reclassification of 15, 000 +- acres of wild forest as wilderness. Such action will restrict access for the handicapped and the majority of the public. Leave the area as wild forest and construct recreation corridors allowing access into this area.
Vehemently oppose the closing and subsequent removal of the Little Indian and Otter Brook Roads that lead Squaw Lake, Muskrat Lake and the Little River. These bodies of water provide some of the best trout fishing opportunities in New York State and have been accessed by the sporting community via motor vehicle for many, many years with no discernable negative environmental impact. The roads are maintainable and provide access for all individuals, including individuals with disabilities and “individuals in the middle” who are not fit enough to hike to these prime fishing locations. It is difficult to understand the thinking behind this recommendation.
It just plain doesn’t make any sense!
Oppose any actions that create “wilderness buffer zones”, which essentially restrict access on wild forest lands.
Oppose the designation of any management areas that restrict access by the public especially those who are physically limited or have special needs..
Support the float plane access, as outlined in the plan, leading to Beaver Lake, Little Moose Lake, Squaw Lake, and Little Indian Lake. Recommend designation as a special management area that will allow float plane use to be maintained in perpetuity.
Support ATV access during participation in Department of Environmental Conservation licensed activities such as hunting, fishing and trapping.
Please take action to modify the plan accordingly.
Thank you for your time and consideration
Eric K. Bratt
New York State Muzzleloaders Assoc / Past President
1680 Mudge Road
Delanson, NY 12053
As a New York State taxpayer, sportsman and user of the Moose River area I make the following comments on the Moose River Plains Unit Management Plan. As an organization the New York State Muzzleloaders take this issue to heart as they have been a special use group of this area for many years holding their “Primitive Rendezvous” annual in the meadow. If this UMP is not carefully crafted it will become an area which excludes many sportsman and women and while the “Wilderness” moniker is idealistic, it is not practical for the users of these resources. The following comments summarize the changes we support in moving the UMP to approval;
Support the intensive use corridor and roadside camping.
Extend the intensive use area from the Red River to the Limekiln Gate, allowing the placement of three to four more Camp sites and securing the entrance to the area.
Vehemently oppose reclassification of 15, 000 +- acres of wild forest as wilderness. Such action will restrict access for the handicapped and the majority of the public. Leave the area as wild forest and construct recreation corridors allowing access into this area.
Vehemently oppose the closing and subsequent removal of the Little Indian and Otter Brook Roads that lead Squaw Lake, Muskrat Lake and the Little River. These bodies of water provide some of the best trout fishing opportunities in New York State and have been accessed by the sporting community via motor vehicle for many, many years with no discernable negative environmental impact. The roads are maintainable and provide access for all individuals, including individuals with disabilities and “individuals in the middle” who are not fit enough to hike to these prime fishing locations. It is difficult to understand the thinking behind this recommendation.
It just plain doesn’t make any sense!
Oppose any actions that create “wilderness buffer zones”, which essentially restrict access on wild forest lands.
Oppose the designation of any management areas that restrict access by the public especially those who are physically limited or have special needs..
Support the float plane access, as outlined in the plan, leading to Beaver Lake, Little Moose Lake, Squaw Lake, and Little Indian Lake. Recommend designation as a special management area that will allow float plane use to be maintained in perpetuity.
Support ATV access during participation in Department of Environmental Conservation licensed activities such as hunting, fishing and trapping.
Please take action to modify the plan accordingly.
Thank you for your time and consideration
Eric K. Bratt
New York State Muzzleloaders Assoc / Past President
1680 Mudge Road
Delanson, NY 12053
Wednesday, August 18, 2010
Moose River Plains UMP
Subject: Fw: Moose River Plains UMP sent by Bill Lloyd 1st NYSMLA President
FYI, forwarded from Dave Corr :
As you know I attended the UMP Hearing in Inlet on 8/16/10. I addressed them and had a great deal of support. All 27 of those that spoke were of the same ilk. I got to start off behind the town of Inlet Spr.
There were a few good things in that they want to add a snowmobile connector to Raquette lake. And they want to add a new intensive use area but just along part of the road.
The bad parts are that they will continue to not be able to monitor the invasive, heritage strains, acid rain etc in the wilderness areas. They want to close another 4 miles of raods from the Otter Brook Trail to Squaw.. They want to reduce the number of camping sites from 174 to 83 which will be better "suited for the wilderness experience". In the future though,there "may be the capacity for up to 150 sites". In addition they will take nearly 15,000 acres into wilderness which would represent 25% of the MRP. I have attached a copy of the comments that I made.
I urge everyone that you know or might be interested at all to write to Keith Rivers, NYSDEC Region 6, 7327 Rt 812, Lowville, NY 12885 (ph 315 376-3521)
IF YOU CARE AT ALL ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE MOOSE RIVER PLAINS THEN WRITE TODAY!!!!! THE DEADLINE IS 8/30/10
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Moose River Plains UMP 8/16/10
I am here this evening to address the proposed changes to the Moose River Plains Recreational Area. A name that was designated in 1963, when the land was first acquired. At the time the DEC Commissioner Wilm announced the acquisition was in response to the “heavy demand for water oriented recreational areas”, He further stated that there is “considerable frontage on the Main and Middle Branches of the Moose River”. And that the “several well kept woods roads leading to the interior of the parcel provides excellent public access”. Lastly he stated the “lakes and terrain around it are ideally suited to the establishment of this form of recreational facility”.
Now we are to ignore the last nearly 50 years and simply merge another large piece of the MRP to be wilderness… I hope not.
The last version of the proposed UMP map shows that the intensive use areas are to exclude the area from Limekiln gate as well as the section from Otter Brook to Squaw Lake. In reality, at the last Public hearing hear in this very same room, the public was assured by forester Eric Kasza that the WC UMP map was incorrect and that the road from Squaw Lake to the Moose River would not be closed. But that was not true and we, the public, were lied to. You can understand why you can have a serious credibility issue in many peoples mind.
It amazes me that there was not sufficient money neither to keep the MRP open, nor to maintain trails this year but there is money to remove campsites?? The gate to lock dam is still closed as of about a week ago. 16% of the local economy is based on the MRP and yet the effort is to condense will only reduce the overall usage, detract from the quality of the area, and adversely impact the local economy.
It seems every UMP that I have seen continually restricts access for the young, old, older or disabled. I would like to take my grandchildren to some of the areas in the MRP as I did my children and my father did with me.
I urge you to not take the Sly Pond areas and trails, maintain the access from Limekiln Lake thru to Indian Lake and also maintain the access to Squaw lake and beyond to the Moose River as we were originally told. I am in favor of providing the snowmobile connector.
Thank you for this opportunity to express my position.
Dave Corr
Corr Road
Inlet, NY
FYI, forwarded from Dave Corr :
As you know I attended the UMP Hearing in Inlet on 8/16/10. I addressed them and had a great deal of support. All 27 of those that spoke were of the same ilk. I got to start off behind the town of Inlet Spr.
There were a few good things in that they want to add a snowmobile connector to Raquette lake. And they want to add a new intensive use area but just along part of the road.
The bad parts are that they will continue to not be able to monitor the invasive, heritage strains, acid rain etc in the wilderness areas. They want to close another 4 miles of raods from the Otter Brook Trail to Squaw.. They want to reduce the number of camping sites from 174 to 83 which will be better "suited for the wilderness experience". In the future though,there "may be the capacity for up to 150 sites". In addition they will take nearly 15,000 acres into wilderness which would represent 25% of the MRP. I have attached a copy of the comments that I made.
I urge everyone that you know or might be interested at all to write to Keith Rivers, NYSDEC Region 6, 7327 Rt 812, Lowville, NY 12885 (ph 315 376-3521)
IF YOU CARE AT ALL ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE MOOSE RIVER PLAINS THEN WRITE TODAY!!!!! THE DEADLINE IS 8/30/10
============
Moose River Plains UMP 8/16/10
I am here this evening to address the proposed changes to the Moose River Plains Recreational Area. A name that was designated in 1963, when the land was first acquired. At the time the DEC Commissioner Wilm announced the acquisition was in response to the “heavy demand for water oriented recreational areas”, He further stated that there is “considerable frontage on the Main and Middle Branches of the Moose River”. And that the “several well kept woods roads leading to the interior of the parcel provides excellent public access”. Lastly he stated the “lakes and terrain around it are ideally suited to the establishment of this form of recreational facility”.
Now we are to ignore the last nearly 50 years and simply merge another large piece of the MRP to be wilderness… I hope not.
The last version of the proposed UMP map shows that the intensive use areas are to exclude the area from Limekiln gate as well as the section from Otter Brook to Squaw Lake. In reality, at the last Public hearing hear in this very same room, the public was assured by forester Eric Kasza that the WC UMP map was incorrect and that the road from Squaw Lake to the Moose River would not be closed. But that was not true and we, the public, were lied to. You can understand why you can have a serious credibility issue in many peoples mind.
It amazes me that there was not sufficient money neither to keep the MRP open, nor to maintain trails this year but there is money to remove campsites?? The gate to lock dam is still closed as of about a week ago. 16% of the local economy is based on the MRP and yet the effort is to condense will only reduce the overall usage, detract from the quality of the area, and adversely impact the local economy.
It seems every UMP that I have seen continually restricts access for the young, old, older or disabled. I would like to take my grandchildren to some of the areas in the MRP as I did my children and my father did with me.
I urge you to not take the Sly Pond areas and trails, maintain the access from Limekiln Lake thru to Indian Lake and also maintain the access to Squaw lake and beyond to the Moose River as we were originally told. I am in favor of providing the snowmobile connector.
Thank you for this opportunity to express my position.
Dave Corr
Corr Road
Inlet, NY
Monday, August 16, 2010
Is it impossible to get people to think?
With all the news that comes into my email box, facebook page & over the lame stream media I have to ask this question.
Do you believe that as long as government can stimulate the irrational in people; government can continue to do as they please? So every time you forward a piece of lame stream media news, ask yourself am I helping myself,(does it make me feel good); the people or them the government?
Do you believe that as long as government can stimulate the irrational in people; government can continue to do as they please? So every time you forward a piece of lame stream media news, ask yourself am I helping myself,(does it make me feel good); the people or them the government?
Sunday, August 15, 2010
Wane County , NY Pistol Permit Card System
Pistol Permit Card System
John Piczkur Wayne County SCOPE member reports the following news.
From: John Piczkur
Subject: Pistol Permit Card System
Thanks to continued and persistent hard work of Mike Jankowski (our county clerk) and Barry Virts (our county sheriff), the pistol permit card system is closer to being reality.
The Board of supervisors unanimously approved the card system. Wayne County clerks office now will move into the implementation phase. The hope is the system will "go live" in late fall of 2010.
We need to support these two men in their political careers, as they are dedicated to their jobs, our Second Amendment Rights and ....oh yeah...they are SCOPE members as well!
John Piczkur Wayne County SCOPE member reports the following news.
From: John Piczkur
Subject: Pistol Permit Card System
Thanks to continued and persistent hard work of Mike Jankowski (our county clerk) and Barry Virts (our county sheriff), the pistol permit card system is closer to being reality.
The Board of supervisors unanimously approved the card system. Wayne County clerks office now will move into the implementation phase. The hope is the system will "go live" in late fall of 2010.
We need to support these two men in their political careers, as they are dedicated to their jobs, our Second Amendment Rights and ....oh yeah...they are SCOPE members as well!
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