http://www.cnycentral.com/news/story.aspx?id=854202
The president of the New York State Conservation Council, Chuck Parker, says that his organization considers the NY SAFE Act an unconstitutional infringement on the second amendment.
He also says the NYS Conservation Council takes issue with the manner in which the NY SAFE Act passed the legislature in Albany earlier this month without public hearings.
... Ted Strang, an individual attending the event, says he intended to bring a sign into the meeting to show is opposition to the law but was prevented from doing so.
A spokesperson for the DCJS confirmed that signs are prohibited from the forums, whether they are for or against the law.
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WTH! LMAO a sign is not allowed..OHHHHH new rules have we? OK guys get the "T" shirts out.
A sign on your vehicle.
Bet if this was one of those abortion, minority, gay rally's they'd have signs, cameras, and people chanting and dancing in the streets. I'm convinced this SAFE ACT, I.E. "Firearms Ban" is designed to unarm white males. Therefore it is racist as racist can be!! Hell if people can call a sugar or soda law racist, then WTH do ya call this act?
bpb ps. POWG stands for Poor Old White Guy
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Thursday, January 31, 2013
Mike Green SAFE ACT responds, DUH I don't know, maybe?
“Isn't the Constitution the law of all laws that trumps any other laws and what about the oath to protect that. Also, with the Constitution, you don't feel that this SAFE Act is unconstitutional?” asked another person at the meeting.
Mike Green reply:
“I'd be willing to bet there will be challenges to the constitutionality of the law and those will get handled through the courts, but until that happens our role at DCJS and their role at the NYSP doesn't change. We have to operate under the presumption that the law is constitutional until a judge says otherwise,” said Green in response.
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Humm another lawyer that just doesn't know. But HEY! Will move along arresting people ruin there lives till we find out different.
bpb
Mike Green reply:
“I'd be willing to bet there will be challenges to the constitutionality of the law and those will get handled through the courts, but until that happens our role at DCJS and their role at the NYSP doesn't change. We have to operate under the presumption that the law is constitutional until a judge says otherwise,” said Green in response.
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Humm another lawyer that just doesn't know. But HEY! Will move along arresting people ruin there lives till we find out different.
bpb
Conventional wisdom among the legislators~The earth is flat
From a SAFE ACT forum Quoting the news here:
"The conventional wisdom among the legislators, our leaders is that this will lessen the ability of those who use those add ons to be more efficient as an active shooter," New York State Police said.
When that didn't work, State Police explained they weren't behind the legislation, merely trying to explain how it would be enforced, reminding gun owners that while the law was was passed quickly...regulations were still being fine tuned.
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As per wiki definitions:
... So, Conventional wisdom may itself be the subject of legends. For example, it is widely believed that conventional wisdom prior to Christopher Columbus held that the world was flat, when in actuality scholars had long accepted that the earth is a sphere.
However, if enough people read and believe this fact, the above sentence will eventually become "conventional wisdom". Ironically however it would likewise become false, because it would no longer be true that this belief about the conventional wisdom of an earlier era was widespread.
Conventional wisdom is the body of ideas or explanations generally accepted as true by the public or by experts in a field. Such ideas or explanations, though widely held, are unexamined. Unqualified societal discourse preserves the status quo.
In short it's political bullshit!
Regards,
bpb
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SAFE ACT Fox23 news
"The conventional wisdom among the legislators, our leaders is that this will lessen the ability of those who use those add ons to be more efficient as an active shooter," New York State Police said.
When that didn't work, State Police explained they weren't behind the legislation, merely trying to explain how it would be enforced, reminding gun owners that while the law was was passed quickly...regulations were still being fine tuned.
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As per wiki definitions:
... So, Conventional wisdom may itself be the subject of legends. For example, it is widely believed that conventional wisdom prior to Christopher Columbus held that the world was flat, when in actuality scholars had long accepted that the earth is a sphere.
However, if enough people read and believe this fact, the above sentence will eventually become "conventional wisdom". Ironically however it would likewise become false, because it would no longer be true that this belief about the conventional wisdom of an earlier era was widespread.
Conventional wisdom is the body of ideas or explanations generally accepted as true by the public or by experts in a field. Such ideas or explanations, though widely held, are unexamined. Unqualified societal discourse preserves the status quo.
In short it's political bullshit!
Regards,
bpb
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SAFE ACT Fox23 news
Tuesday, January 29, 2013
Cuomo's Firearms Ban meetings state wide shuffle
Tuesday, January 29
12:00 PM Mike Green, Executive Deputy Commissioner, Division of Criminal Justice Services and Steve Hogan, First Deputy Counsel, New York State Police present the NY SAFE Act in Erie County
Clarence Public Library
3 Town Place
Clarence, New York
Overflow crowd loud and heckling
12:00 PM First Deputy Superintendent Kevin Gagan, New York State Police and Sgt. James Sherman, New York State Police present the NY SAFE Act in Broome County
Endwell Volunteer Fire Hall
3508 Country Club Road
Endwell, New York
No report yet
1:00 PM Colonel Thomas Fazio, Field Commander, New York State Police and Kevin Bruen, Assistant Counsel, New York State Police present the NY SAFE Act in Essex County
Conference Center at Lake Placid, ORDA Excelsior Room
2643 Main Street
Lake Placid, New York
Get out there and make them listen.
5:00 PM Mike Green, Executive Deputy Commissioner, Division of Criminal Justice Services and Steve Hogan, First Deputy Counsel, New York State Police present the NY SAFE Act in Monroe County
Rochester Public Safety Building
First Floor Auditorium
185 Exchange Street
Get out there and make them listen
6:00 PM First Deputy Superintendent Kevin Gagan, New York State Police and Sgt. James Sherman, New York State Police present the NY SAFE Act in Tompkins County
Greater Ithaca Activities Center
521 W. Seneca Street
Ithaca, New York
Get out there and make them listen
Black Powder Bill Brookover
315-524-3457
www.nysmla.org President
www.blackpowderbill.com
GunBroker name BPBRS
Licensed FFL longarms only
www.SCOPEny.org Director
www.NYGUNCLUB.org Director
315-524-3457
www.nysmla.org President
www.blackpowderbill.com
GunBroker name BPBRS
Licensed FFL longarms only
www.SCOPEny.org Director
www.NYGUNCLUB.org Director
Sunday, January 27, 2013
Dozens rally in Rochester for second amendment rights | www.WHEC.com
Thanks to Jeddy Tranquill for donating his money and time to support this effort.
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Dozens rally in Rochester for second amendment rights | www.WHEC.com
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Dozens rally in Rochester for second amendment rights | www.WHEC.com
Tuesday, January 22, 2013
Shooter's Committee on Political Education update
Shooter's Committee on Political Education will host the monthly Meeting at the Marion Legion at 7pm. It is suggested if you want a seat to arrive early. Monroe counties meeting was last night at Jay's diner and it was standing room only after the booths and tables were filled up.
I'd like to thank ABATE of Rochester for coming out last night and offering SCOPE a table at their upcoming swap meet in Hilton this Sunday. Also to the guy who rented the auditorium at Rendell Library on his own dime so information on the Firearm’s Ban can be discussed with all those affected. As I understood it the upcoming gun show in April at its new location in Gates may have a rally as well. [TBA]
Also the Supervisor of Gates for coming out in support of all our rights. Last all the members and new members for giving towards the pending litigation, without you we’d be sunk. SCOPE has won several suits in NY over the years. We are in the process of negotiations with our attorney. The NY legislature will have to iron out some of the language in the bill they pass. Many items listed actually banned firearms from use by state and local civil service employees.
Join and Donate to help us fund and fight this legislation!
I'd like to thank ABATE of Rochester for coming out last night and offering SCOPE a table at their upcoming swap meet in Hilton this Sunday. Also to the guy who rented the auditorium at Rendell Library on his own dime so information on the Firearm’s Ban can be discussed with all those affected. As I understood it the upcoming gun show in April at its new location in Gates may have a rally as well. [TBA]
Also the Supervisor of Gates for coming out in support of all our rights. Last all the members and new members for giving towards the pending litigation, without you we’d be sunk. SCOPE has won several suits in NY over the years. We are in the process of negotiations with our attorney. The NY legislature will have to iron out some of the language in the bill they pass. Many items listed actually banned firearms from use by state and local civil service employees.
Join and Donate to help us fund and fight this legislation!
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