NY firearms ban in Parks

IMO~
Public gun clubs and ranges to be shut down in New York if a new bill is passed into law.
That’s right folks, a new bill that seems to be on the fast track for the Senate is bill S4753A/A7183A.

“ This bill Prohibits the possession of concealed firearms in any federal, state or municipal park, campground or other publicly dedicated recreation area; imposes a civil penalty of not more than $1,000 for a violation thereof. “

So how many public ranges is their in New York; 100,200 maybe more. How many clubs have or are receiving money from the government? You all know how that FREE money deal works don’t ya? Let me explain for all those who missed the recent bailout stories. Uncle Sugar gives you money & the rules to go along with it!

I’m sure we will see the majority of membership only clubs tighten their requirements for open shooting like Skeet, Trap and Sporting Clays. I know as a former President and now a director of one of the most popular ranges in western NY we may be hard pressed and at full range utilization to accept all the fall out from the public ranges.

Campgrounds will take a big hit for sure I know for that will do in the NYS Muzzle Loaders fall Ronny which is held at the Moose River Plains camp ground area just outside Inlet, NY. What about all those campgrounds that host shooting competitors from around the country? Oddly enough some of our state leadership wants to ban firearms in Federal lands. DUH, the Feds just opened up concealed carry on federal land. So my question is; will the state loose federal dollars if they decide to pass a local law banning firearms on federal land guess we’ll have to wait and see?
No more National Muzzle Loader annual Ronny’s on state land, tens of thousands of dollars will be lost to the local economies if this happens.

I could continue on but you all get the grim dark picture I’m sure. I don't care if the state says we will be excluded because you konow we will be fighting with some town or park over hunting regulations.

I can not stress enough for sportsmen to get involved. WWW.SCOPEny.ORG has several position papers on present legislation and you people better get informed and make your calls. You can visit me at blogspot.blackpowderbill.com for this comment and other news that affects NY sportsmen.

Make calls to your senator and assembly person on this one and while you are on the phone with your senator ask them to oppose the renewable pistol license bill S1598A. Call Senator Schneiderman the senate sponsor also at 518-455-2041

Hey! See ya on the firing line!
Regards,
BlackPowderBill


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A07183 Summary:
BILL NO A07183B

SAME AS Same as S 4753-A

SPONSOR Englebright (MS)

COSPNSR Schimel, Paulin, Jaffee, Eddington, Espaillat, O'Donnell, Hooper,
Rivera N

MLTSPNSR Glick, Markey, McEneny

Add S13.31, Pks & Rec L

Prohibits the possession of concealed firearms in any park, campground or other
recreation area; imposes a civil penalty of not more than $1,000 for a
violation thereof.

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A07183 Actions:
BILL NO A07183B

03/25/2009 referred to tourism, arts and sports development
04/22/2009 amend and recommit to tourism, arts and sports development
04/22/2009 print number 7183a
05/20/2009 amend and recommit to tourism, arts and sports development
05/20/2009 print number 7183b
05/27/2009 reported referred to codes


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A07183 Votes:


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A07183 Memo:
BILL NUMBER:A7183B

TITLE OF BILL: An act to amend the parks, recreation and historic
preservation law, in relation to prohibiting the possession of
concealed firearms in parks, campgrounds and other public recreation
areas

PURPOSE OR GENERAL IDEA OF THE BILL: to prohibit the possession of
concealed firearms in any park, campground or other recreation area

SUMMARY OF PROVISIONS: the parks, recreation and historical
preservation law is amended by adding a new section 13.31which will
enact the prohibition of concealed firearms in parks, campgrounds and
other public recreation areas. Except as provided in this section and
otherwise specifically permitted in law, no person, other than a
member of a federal, state or municipal law enforcement agency, shall
introduce or possess, either upon his or her person or within a
vehicle or other place of storage, any concealed firearm in any
federal, state or municipal park, campground or other publicly
dedicated recreation area.

The prohibition in subdivision one of this section shall not apply: to
any campground under jurisdiction of the department of environmental
conservation only during the spring and fall hunting seasons; to
office of parks, recreation and historic preservation lands where
hunting is permitted by a rule or regulation of a regional park,
recreation and historic preservation commission; to privately owned
residences within parks and campgrounds in the Adirondack park and
Catskill park as defined by section 9-0101 of the Environmental
Conservation Law; and to any person employed by a private security
firm which has contracted with the public agency having jurisdiction
over the park, campground or public recreation area for services on
the property under the jurisdiction, custody and control of such
public agency who shall be permitted, with the approval of such public
agency, to carry or possess a concealed firearm supplied by his/her
employer in the course of his/her employment on such property,
provided that such person is licensed pursuant to section 400.00 of
the penal law and meets such minimum qualifications as may be
established by such public agency. In addition, any firm providing
security services on park land, campgrounds or other publicly
dedicated recreation area lands shall provide public liability
insurance, naming the appropriate federal government, state or
municipal agency as an insured party, in such amounts as the public
agency with jurisdiction shall require.

A violation of the provisions of this section shall be subject to a
civil penalty not to exceed one thousand dollars.

JUSTIFICATION: a Federal Regulation (36 CFR Part 2 and 50 CFR Part 27)
enacted in December, 2008 allows for the carrying of concealed weapons
in National Parks and National Wildlife Areas by those licensed to
carry such weapons by State law. This new federal regulation, along
with a recent amendment to the Federal Credit Cardholders Bill of
Rights Act of 2009 (H.R. 627), create confusing, burdensome, and
unnecessary inconsistencies regarding firearm regulations as it
conflicts with current State Park and DEC rules prohibiting the
carrying of concealed firearms. In the interest of public safety and


the protection of natural resources, as well as consistency of statute
among State, Federal and Municipal parklands, it is necessary to
prohibit the possession of concealed firearms in any park, campground
or other public recreation area within the State.

LEGISLATIVE HISTORY: New bill.

FISCAL IMPLICATIONS: None.

EFFECTIVE DATE: This act shall take effect immediately.