Monday, August 31, 2009

Saturday, August 22, 2009

Hummm, he's not white

This showed up in my mail today
The Obama cartel claims there are “white people showing up with guns” to Obama speeches. This guy is black, which the media concealed, and then they claim white racism?

Anyone still believe the media does not lie to us?

Wednesday, August 19, 2009

Cable Restraint Bill

Thoughts on the Cable Restraint Bill

Bill to allow the DEC to develop Rules and Regulations for the use of cable restraints was introduced in the Assembly and Senate again this 2009 Legislative Session. And like similar bills at least the last decade failed to make it out of the respective Environmental Conservation Committees. So they could be voted upon by the full legislature.

Why haven’t the bills gotten past the Environmental Conservation Committees?
- They have no additional cost to the State.
- They do not require additional state resources or personnel.
- They are non-controversial and have little organized opposition.
- Cable Restraints are safer to use in urban and suburban locations where pets may be inadvertently caught.
- They can be more effective than many other devices.
- Their use can potentially reduce the costs of nuisance animal control for both the public and NWCO’s

My conclusion is that the advantages of cable restraints have not been a factor with the Assembly and Senate. More importantly, there has been no obvious political mileage in considering a cable restraint law.
- There is little public pressure to change the current law that outlaws snares.
- Most of the members of the Assembly and Senate Environmental Conservation Committees are from urban and suburban locations and have little contact with nuisance wildlife.
- The public is generally ignorant about modern cable restraints and how they are used, and why they may be preferable to other methods.
- There is little political mileage by spending their time on a bill that has little public support. Such a bill is easy to ignore to spend time on issues with more public interest.

Do I think a cable restraint bill should be passed? Most definitely Yes; do I think it will become law in the foreseeable future? No; unless there is a concerted campaign by NWCO’s, trappers, Spa’s, animal rights organizations and others to contact their legislators and pressure them to pass a bill allowing cable restraints to be used in New York State. There must also be an aggressive education campaign to educate SPCA’s, animal Rights Organizations, and the public that cable restraints are not snares, but are a humane and effective method of capturing nuisance animals with minimal danger to pets.

I do not believe NWCO’s can do it alone, but we must combine forces with other groups. What can we do? I suggest that:
- NWCO’s establish a dialogue with other groups interest in safe, humane animal capture.
- That NWCO’s establish a dialogue with groups concerned with the safety of pets in urban and suburban areas.
- That NWCO’s establish a dialogue with other groups with an economic interest in more effective animal capture techniques. eg. Fur trappers.
- That NWCO’s, in association with other groups undertake an education campaign to educate politicians and the public about cable restraints.
- That NWCO’s pressure their legislators and the members of the Environmental Conservation Committees to act positively on introduced cable restraint bills.

To summarize, we must make it politically advantageous to support a cable restraint bill. We must give our representatives a reason to consider a cable restraint bill ahead of the numerous other bills introduced each year. We must make it more advantageous for them to act on a cable restraint bill than to let it die in committee. Without these changes, I fear that we will not see a cable restraint bill passed in the foreseeable future.

Bert Mead

Wednesday, August 12, 2009

Senator Schneiderman - Senator Valesky

Subject: Meeting Senator Schneiderman - Senator Valesky

Senator Valesky organized today's meeting that was held for Senator Schneiderman to talk with a dozen concerned sportsmen / gun owners in Senator Valesky's area. Before the meeting, which was held at a sportsmen's club, Charlie Pace and I participated in a tour with the Senators and Senate staff to an archery/gun shop. At the shop many questions were asked about the procedures for sale and licenses to buy guns.

Discussion about lowering the age to hunt big game with a bow to 12 years old may have done some good, as Senator Schneiderman was surprised to learn that our state has a minimum draw weight for bows to make them legal to hunt big game with. He said he wished he knew that in 2008 when he opposed the bill.

The next stop was the sportsmen’s club and the range, where the senators and staff learned about muzzleloaders, handguns, rifles and shotguns and talked with the group of concerned sportsmen. Senator Schneiderman also had the opportunity to shoot both 50 and 54 caliber muzzleloaders. Then down to business of lunch and the meeting, where we were joined by Senator Aubertine.

Senator Schneiderman was very receptive to the comments made by everyone in attendance. Hopefully we have educated him and staff and we will have an ally to stop the anti-gun legislation that hurts only the law-abiding gunowners. This tour and meeting resulted from some of the talks I had with Senators Valesky, Schneiderman and Aubertine earlier this year.

Senator Schneiderman became the Chair of the Codes Committee this year; he is from Manhattan and was dealing with gun issues from an urban perspective. I had brought up the fact that the legislation he was sponsoring would hurt the sportsmen and gunowners from all over the state.

Senator Schneiderman said he would hold off on pushing the gun bills until he had a chance to get more facts, and it was decided that Senator Valesky would arrange a tour and meeting with sportsmen in his area for Senator Schneiderman.

Harold L. Palmer
New York State Conservation Council, Inc.

Wednesday, August 5, 2009

From the Desk of NY Senator Tom Libous

Looks like we escaped another near train wreck. BPB

From the Desk of Senator Tom Libous
August 4, 2009

Dear George [Franke],

We've managed to stop the micro-stamping and the pistol re-permitting bills - for now.

Bad bills like micro-stamping and pistol re-permitting and the irresponsible State Budget are why I proposed the historic rules changes on June 8th. And, while the news media may have said the Senate wasn't working, I was working to make sure that these bad bills didn't get put on the Senate agenda.

Those bills were going to be brought up for a vote by the New York City bosses later on in June.

While we stopped these anti-Second Amendment Rights bills for now, the New York City bosses will try again to pass them. They may not be on the agenda for Thursday's Session but they may be in September.

I'll keep working with the NRA, George Franke of the Adirondack-Catskill Safari Club International, William Gibson of the Shooters Committee on Political Education and Darryall Sprague of the Broome County Sportsmen's Federation to make sure that the New York City bosses know that they're wrong on these issues.

But we also need to keep working together. If you aren't registered to vote, please register by clicking here for the form. If you are, make sure you vote. And make sure that your hunting buddies are registered and vote too. That's the clearest way to send a message to the New York City bosses.

Stay in touch!

NY Big Game WMU changes

Here it is !
NY Big Game,The odds of selection for Deer Management Permits (DMPs) in 2009 have been posted on our website at

We routinely get questions from hunters about how DMP quotas are developed, and we have a description of the process posted at

DMPs will be available when licenses go on sale beginning August 17, 2009. The deadline for application is October 1, 2009. As a reminder, the license fees have changed as well, and DMP applications will now be free only for holders of a Junior Hunting or Junior Bowhunting licenses and for hunters who purchased a Lifetime Sportsmen License prior to October 1, 2009. All other license holders will be charged $10 for the DMP application.

The $10 fee covers application for 1 or 2 DMPs.Also, please be aware that some Wildlife Management Unit boundaries have changed. It is very important that you review the new WMU boundaries so that you are able to apply for a DMP in the correct unit.

The boundary changes also affect some season dates, bag limits, and open areas for big and small game, turkey, waterfowl, and furbearers.

See for boundary descriptions and for description of the boundary changes.

Jeremy Hurst
Big Game Biologist_

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